Simple yes or no...would you like a tuning tutorial for EFI Live?

[onfire]

Hope this works as I've never posted a poll before.

Just a simple yes or no poll.

[Bruce Melton]

Hope this works as I've never posted a poll before.

Just a simple yes or no poll.

But---

[Tordne]

I haven't been bothered posting in these couple of threads before....

My feeling is this:

Tuning is a discipline, and EFILive is a tool.

Any tutorial that EFILive would/might produce "should" IMO be limited to the use and functionality of the "tool".

When anyone is going to alter the behaviour of their cars PCM they risk potentially serious damage as a result of their actions. It is therefore the responsibility of the tuner/amateur to take all precautions to ensure that they are adequately informed and knowledgeable about what they are undertaking.

I started out a year and a half ago (basically bought EFILive the day it was released). In that year and a half I have learnt a shit load by reading books, forum posts asking questions etc.

I think it is completely unrealistic for any materials to be produced that will turn anyone into a would be tuner in 5 minutes. And I think that is an unrealistic expectation on the part of the would be tuner.

Just my $0.02 and not a popular opinion. I just think some expect this to all be presented on a silver platter and not have to perform any leg work of their own.

Cheers,

[Xtnct00WS6]

Being new at this, it makes me A LOT more comfortable knowing that there's information/advice/tips out there about the product I'm about to pay a lot of money for. If two software packages are equal and one has more documentation/tips/tutorials, guess which one people will buy! If the people that tune for a living don't want to put out trade secrets or things they've learned along the way, fine. They don't have to.

[mnotx]

I believe this has and will continue to take care of itself. There are many posted tutorials on this forum for various tuning processes. I have gone from ignorant novice to fairly knowedgeable this past year just from reading this forum. I am sure the tutorials will continue as more and more people discover EFILive.

Given the variables involved, it would be very risky for EFILive to try to establish a safe tuning tutorial for the masses. They would end up being blamed for everything that didn't turn out as expected, even though they do not have control of how it was used.

I think what we have now works well. Ask a question and several of the forum's seasoned tuners will jump in there with suggestions or solutions.

Just my 2 cents worth.

[Tordne]

You will find that pretty much all the information you need is here, cause it is the same information all of us needed when we started out. It just doesn't start "Once upon a time..."

[dfe1]

Since no one has answered correctly yet-- my response is yes or no.

[Tordne]

So that would be a maybe then

[dfe1]

So that would be a maybe then

No, that would be I smell a rat. Some posters are pushing a bit too hard for a tutorial for me to believe that's all they want. I think there are some private agendas at work here. When you buy tuning software, you get the program and a cable and a ton of great information. You do not get, nor are you entitled to a mommy and daddy to hold your hand and teach you all the ins and outs of tuning. In fact, this forum is a lot better resource than any tutorial. I can't count the number of times people have posted questions and received the specific answers they needed to solve their problems. How many times have you seen one offer to look at another's data log or send a revised calibration file? You won't get that out of a tutorial. Granted, a comprehensive tutorial will ramp up the learning curve, but I get the distinct feeling that other motivations are at work here. Frankly, if I were a moderator, I would have shut this and similar threads down long ago.

[onfire]

No, that would be I smell a rat. Some posters are pushing a bit too hard for a tutorial for me to believe that's all they want. I think there are some private agendas at work here. When you buy tuning software, you get the program and a cable and a ton of great information. You do not get, nor are you entitled to a mommy and daddy to hold your hand and teach you all the ins and outs of tuning. In fact, this forum is a lot better resource than any tutorial. I can't count the number of times people have posted questions and received the specific answers they needed to solve their problems. How many times have you seen one offer to look at another's data log or send a revised calibration file? You won't get that out of a tutorial. Granted, a comprehensive tutorial will ramp up the learning curve, but I get the distinct feeling that other motivations are at work here. Frankly, if I were a moderator, I would have shut this and similar threads down long ago.

What kind of proof do you need to confirm I'm a single user that bought the program from Jesse Bubb in the spring? Go to LS1tech and run a search on my name "onfire"...you'll find I've been a moderator since 2001 and have not been a vendor for anything.

Call jesse and confirm my purchase if you want to....just don't start factless rumors based on how you smell.