noticed idle issue and questions

[BACKinBLACK]

2000 SS M6

Ok guys i have a few questions. First off im running open loop still AUTO VE'ing so im running everything just like it says in the tutorial. When the car first starts up and idles, well actually it can pretty much idle all day and until i drive the car the AFR usually is about 15-16:1 and sometimes higher I have done RAFIG numerous times. Once i drive it for a while and go and sit and idle it is where it needs to be... but why does it run so lean before i drive it? I have a file of first start idle if i can figure out how to post it....

My next question is when im open loop, auto ve mode, maf not hooked up does my car run off of the back up ve table or main ve table? Back up i would guess. Is there a way to make it run off the Main VE table without hooking the maf back up or do i have to run a COS to do this? ALso what about my spark tables, when i go WOT does it run off the Optimal Spark table or run a mixture of high and low octane tables?

[Darkness]

I'm still a newb but when you do the auto ve, the car is supposed to use the low spark table, hence why you copy and paste the high.

[BACKinBLACK]

yup i just re read the tutorial and figured that out, thanks though

[Doc]

You could use a COS or just a newer OS and get rid of the whole low resolution back up VE crap.

[BACKinBLACK]

i was thinking about doing that. a couple questions

even though my car is a 2000 can i use the "Stock Tune Migrated To 2002 Operating System" that is on Holden Crazy? If i could figure out how to do it pretty easily i would like to switch to a COS, probably the N2O one if it incorporates the same SD options that the SD cos does.

[Doc]

Check your OS# to make sure it is on the list but, yes that is the general idea. In my case I had to migrate everything by hand to go from the 98 OS to 2002

[TAQuickness]

i was thinking about doing that. a couple questions

even though my car is a 2000 can i use the "Stock Tune Migrated To 2002 Operating System" that is on Holden Crazy? If i could figure out how to do it pretty easily i would like to switch to a COS, probably the N2O one if it incorporates the same SD options that the SD cos does.

Sorta

You can use that tune, but you will need to copy over all the tables you have modified (VE, Idle, Spark, etc...), otherwise, you'd be starting from scratch on the newer OS.

If you want to go with a custom OS, you will need to utilize the stock migrated tune (with your modified tables copied over) or manually copy over all your current (2000 OEM OS) tables to the new custom OS.

Hope that makes sense.

[BACKinBLACK]

well i pretty much just got done copying all of the tables that i could see that were diff from the 99-02 migrated thingy. Anyways, i havent loaded it yet b/c im still waiting for my commercial upgrade key or whatever to get emailed to me.... now then do i have to load the new 02 OS that i have created into the car and then load the COS into the car after that, and then do something else or can i just go strait from the 2k OS to the COS?

[TAQuickness]

from the scan or tune tool, click help -> tutorials -> custom OS upgrade tutorial.

You cannot go straight from a 2k OS to custom or other os. But you can use your modified 99 to 02 migrated OS to make things alot easier.

[BACKinBLACK]

yup i read that still kinda confused... just got my car back after being in the body shop for a few months... been a long time since ive looked at efilive...

****edit**** just found 02020005 link in another thread

so first thing i have to do is load the new 12212156 OS that i made into the car, then i have to save it and then i have to load the COS5 into the car, and then make sure it is ok, and then load the 12212156 Calibration into the car with the COS5 already in it?

or

do i load the COS5 into the car and then load the 99-02 migration that i made, load that calibration into the COS5 that i just loaded into the car.
that way i only have to do 1 full reflash...