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    I am starting to figure out how to make some decent gains with my LBZ. I want to protect the transmission from the extra power I'm making. Do I raise the line pressures? I don't mind sacrificing some performance on shifts if it allows me to run better with very high horsepower and torque. Are there any changes I should make to the tranny that would actually help performance without breaking it? Thanks you.
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    You could install the Transgo Jr. kit. After that you will need a converter. When decide to upgrade your converter install a pump to raise line pressure. Might as well install some better clutches.
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    Thanks. Can't I just raise line pressures through EFILive? I was referring more to protecting the Ally through tuning with EFILive if that's possible *I'm sure it is to some degree).
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    There is no way to tune EFILive to make the trans work better with power beyond it's capabilities. The line pressure can only be raised by changing transmission hard parts. The best way to protect it is to get a good trans kit from either Suncoast or ATS and do it right.

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    Thanks for answering, but I'm still a bit confused.... how come I can adjust the line pressures on a 4L60 & 4L80? Is it only the Allison that you can't adjust line pressures on?
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    The Allison main psi is analog. Just a valve and spring...
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    Default thanks for the response

    So I take it that means it's not adjustable "electronically". Sort of like running off the wastegate spring only. So what are we going to tune on the Ally when 6spd support comes out??
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    I am finding other than reducing torque management, that the Allison is pretty spot on as far as shifting is concerned. Reducing TM really made a big difference in the feel of the Allison. TCC lockup adjustment or shift timing may make a difference too, but I have not messed with those at all yet.
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    However, reducing TM will hurt the tranny more. I am interested in protecting it somehow, since I'm making more power. I am sure that reducing TM improves performance unless there is too much slip, but I am really impressed with the way a stock Ally handles 500 hp / 1000 tq, and I don't want to ask it for too much. When I can afford a fortified tranny, I will make it shift very hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boost
    Thanks. Can't I just raise line pressures through EFILive? I was referring more to protecting the Ally through tuning with EFILive if that's possible *I'm sure it is to some degree).
    nope. The allison is 110% different in terms of design and operation to a 4L60/4L80.

    Its NOTHING like any other automatic out there, conventional trans methods and mods do not apply. You need to go inside it to get it to hold any additional power.

    The stock allison will NOT handle 500hp/1000ft lbs of torque, I can tell you that right now

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