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    I'm updating a tune file to some of the newer TIS calibrations from the GM web site. I'm using a segment from a stock 07 tune I have.
    I've done this for the LB7 & LLY and the ID number change with the check sum.
    When I do this for the LBZ the check sum changes but not the ID number.
    I use this for tuning if I need to update one of the segment. Is there a fix for this?

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    I can't duplicate that problem here.
    As a test I loaded a stock LBZ truck tune, then loaded an LBZ Express VAN tune, copied the engine segment over, saved the file, and I could see the difference.........

    Before:
    Operating System 12606128 $2FE01B201553
    Engine Operation 12610870 $B9C2C627088
    Engine Diagnostics 12610872 $1861EC249F13
    Engine 12610878 $178D54035683
    Fuel System 12610875 $7869DB092C7B
    System 12606155 $802030A636AB
    Speedometer 12606159 $7071255085B5

    After:
    Operating System 12606128 $2FE01B201553
    Engine Operation 12610870 $B9C2C627088
    Engine Diagnostics 12610872 $1861EC249F13
    Engine 12606175 $178D5403617D
    Fuel System 12610875 $7869DB092C7B
    System 12606155 $802030A636AB
    Speedometer 12606159 $7071255085B5

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    I can do it with the LB7 and LLY tunes. Not the LBZ. Only the Check sum changes.
    All I was trying to change is fuel system. Tried others ID segments and the same thing happen.

    What do you suggest?

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    I have the same problem.
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    Before

    12606128.cal

    Operating System...............12606128.............$2FE01B2 01553
    Engine Operation................12606145.............$B9C 2A727385
    Engine Diagnostics..............12606146.............$18A 2C02A325
    Engine..............................12606160...... .......$2FE01B206673
    Fuel System......................12606151.............. $5CB7B9773877
    System............................12606155........ ......$802030A636AB
    Speedometer.....................12606159.......... ....$7071255085B5


    After change

    Operating System...............12606128.............$2FE01B2 01553
    Engine Operation................12606145.............$B9C2C627088
    Engine Diagnostics..............12606146.............$1861EC249F13
    Engine..............................12606160...... .......$2FE01B205678
    Fuel System......................12606151..............$5CB7BA772A7B
    System............................12606155........ ......$802030A636AB
    Speedometer....................12606159........... ...$7071255085B5

    Copy of Segments that should have changed.


    Operating System.....12606128.....$2FE01B201553
    Engine Operation......12610870.....$B9C2C627088
    Engine Diagnostics....12610872.....$1861EC249F13
    Engine....................12610878.....$2FE01B2056 78
    Fuel System............12610877......$5CB7BA772A7B
    System...................12606156......$7E3930A635 AB
    Speedometer...........12606159......$7071255085B5

    Ross. If I can use the version of software that you used I'll be ALL SET Other wise I'm SOL

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    Ross

    I looked at this again.
    This time I didn't delete the changed tune. The tune was saved and reopened.

    Your right it does work. But!!

    Why is it when I save a change from copy entire segment the ID doesn't change only the check sum until I close the tune and reopen again? Even if I save all changes to a new file, the tune has a new tune number but the ID numbers don't change until the tune is also closed and reopened?



    I haven't noticed this when doing changes to LB7 or LLY tunes.

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    We would need the technical explanation from Paul, but, I would suspect it has to do with the Segment I.D's being read only when the file is initially loaded. Because the checksums change everytime you make a change in the calibrations then they need to be updated for every action.

    I guess in a way it's like the Windows message 'you must restart your machine for the changes to take effect'.

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    Aggghh, I thought we killed the "you must restart windows for changes to take effect" with win xp, I havent seen that in a while (ok, it comes up when you change network settings for the first time with a fresh install) on my desktop.

    At least you got it figured out though man!
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