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    In the tuning table D0409 it talks about using two switches, One for performance mode and one for manual mode. Switching to manual mode, will that actually make it act as a manual valve body??

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    Some PCM's treat manual 2nd as "hold 2nd" while others treat it as "automatic 2nd" (i.e. automatic PT upshifts/downshifts between 1st and 2nd)...

    the manual switch allows the behaviour of manual 2nd to be selected as "hold 2nd" (i.e. manual mode) or as "automatic 2nd (i.e. automatic mode)...

    I don't rememeber which vehicle had the manual mode switch... I think it was a 1994/1996 Firebird V6...? I haven't seen one since, altho some trucks may have it.

    In all cases, manual 3rd is always "automatic 3rd" (automatic PT upshifts/downshifts between 1st, 2nd, 3rd)...

    In all cases, depending on the WOT tables, 1->2, 2->3, 1->3 (D0913, D0918, D0919) upshifts may still occur.

    So it's not quite a manual valvebody.
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    thanks for clearing up the question about manual mode.

    as for useing these modes, I have the wires run in cab, just havnt had time to fool around with it yet. let you know when i get to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Some PCM's treat manual 2nd as "hold 2nd" while others treat it as "automatic 2nd" (i.e. automatic PT upshifts/downshifts between 1st and 2nd)...

    the manual switch allows the behaviour of manual 2nd to be selected as "hold 2nd" (i.e. manual mode) or as "automatic 2nd (i.e. automatic mode)...

    I don't rememeber which vehicle had the manual mode switch... I think it was a 1994/1996 Firebird V6...? I haven't seen one since, altho some trucks may have it.

    In all cases, manual 3rd is always "automatic 3rd" (automatic PT upshifts/downshifts between 1st, 2nd, 3rd)...

    In all cases, depending on the WOT tables, 1->2, 2->3, 1->3 (D0913, D0918, D0919) upshifts may still occur.

    So it's not quite a manual valvebody.
    Is this still true? I'm wondering if it is now used for push button shifting?

    Thanks,
    Branden

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    Push button (paddle) shifting is implemented by manipulating the shift solenoid signals;

    the 4L60/65/70E/4L80/85E require the manual valve be in a specific position for this to be allowed;

    the 6L80/90 are fully electronic and allow all ranges/gears to be electronically selected.

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