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    Has anyone used an LC-1 WB with FlashScan yet? Has anyone seen a write up on the best way to hook it up. I just got mine today and after looking at the directions I can tell Innovate does not have a very good Tech Writer. I also want to do the SD tuning and already have a program setup to start it as soon as I get it installed.

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    Default Re: LC-1 and FlashScan

    Quote Originally Posted by BowlingSS
    Has anyone used an LC-1 WB with FlashScan yet? Has anyone seen a write up on the best way to hook it up. I just got mine today and after looking at the directions I can tell Innovate does not have a very good Tech Writer. I also want to do the SD tuning and already have a program setup to start it as soon as I get it installed.

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    Bill
    You managed to get one!!, looks like the are B.O'd until mid June :cry:
    If the manual comes in a pdf file or something then please forward it onto myself or Paul so we can take a look.

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    You managed to get one!!, looks like the are B.O'd until mid June :cry:
    If the manual comes in a pdf file or something then please forward it onto myself or Paul so we can take a look.

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    Ross
    They do not send the doc on a pdf, just a hard copy. I can fax it to you on Tueasday if you send me your fax number.

    Just checked their web site and they do have a manual on pdf. Here is the link:
    http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/support/download.php


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    Quote Originally Posted by BowlingSS
    Just checked their web site and they do have a manual on pdf. Here is the link:
    http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/support/download.php


    Bill
    The link was just fine, thanks Bill.

    Cheers,
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    I just ordered a flashscan and a LC-1, I would be intrested in seeing any info on this combo.

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    Any news yet? Do I use the LM-1 PID?

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    According to the PDF document on the LC-1, the factory programmed settings for the second A/D output (the first is a narrow band simulator) is as follows:

    less tha 0.5 volts is while the LC-1 is warming up or error condition
    0.5V = 7.35 AFR
    5.0V = 22.3881 AFR

    So the formula you need to use in the calc_pids.txt file is:
    AFR = (({EXT.AD1}-0.5)*3.3418)+7.35

    If you can confirm that those settings work correctly with your LC-1, then we will add them permanently into EFILive.

    To use your LC-1, your calc_pids.txt file should look like this:
    Code:
    # ==============================================================================
    # File details
    # ------------
    #
    # This section defines various details about the file format.
    
    *FILE
    
    #Parameter  Value            Description
    #---------- ---------------- ---------------------------------------------------
    VERSION     7.1.1            File version
    DECSEP      .                Decimal separator used in this file
    
    # ==============================================================================
    # Units
    # -------------------
    # See sae_generic.txt for more information on the *UNITS section
    
    *UNITS
    
    #Code     System     Abbr     Description
    #-------- ---------- -------- --------------------------------------------------
     
    # ==============================================================================
    # Add slot definitions here
    # --------------------------------
    # See sae_generic.txt for more information on "SLOT" formats
    #
    #Units             Low          High      Fmt  Expression
    #------------ ------------- ------------- ---- ---------------------------------
    *CLC-00-001 
    V                  0.0          5.00       .1  "{EXT.AD1}"
    AFR               10.0          18.0       .2  "(({EXT.AD1}-0.5)*3.3418)+7.35"
    *CLC-00-002
    factor             0.0           2.0       .1  "{CALC.AFR_LC11}/{GM.AFR}"
    
    
    *CLC-00-003
    V                  0.0          5.00       .1  "{EXT.AD2}"
    AFR               10.0          18.0       .2  "(({EXT.AD2}-0.5)*3.3418)+7.35"
    *CLC-00-004
    factor             0.0           2.0       .1  "{CALC.AFR_LC12}/{GM.AFR}"
    
    # ==============================================================================
    *PRN - Parameter Reference Numbers
    # --------------------------------
    # See sae_generic.txt for more information on the *PRN section
    #
    #Code                      PRN  SLOT         Units            System           Description
    #------------------------- ---- ------------ ---------------- ---------------- ---------------------------------
    CALC.AFR_LC11              F001 CLC-00-001   "V,AFR"          Fuel             "Wide Band AFR 1 - LC-1"
    CALC.BEN_Lc11              F002 CLC-00-002   factor           Fuel             "Base Efficiency Numerator 1 - LC-1"
    CALC.AFR_LC12              F003 CLC-00-003   "V,AFR"          Fuel             "Wide Band AFR 2 - LC-1"
    CALC.BEN_LC12              F004 CLC-00-004   factor           Fuel             "Base Efficiency Numerator 2 - LC-1"

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    I've got a pair of LC-1's on the way and the bungs are going in next week. If someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll compare the results to the LogWorks indication.
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    # ================================================== ============================
    # File details
    # ------------
    #
    # This section defines various details about the file format.

    *FILE

    #Parameter Value Description
    #---------- ---------------- ---------------------------------------------------
    VERSION 7.1.1 File version
    DECSEP . Decimal separator used in this file

    # ================================================== ============================
    # Units
    # -------------------
    # See sae_generic.txt for more information on the *UNITS section

    *UNITS

    #Code System Abbr Description
    #-------- ---------- -------- --------------------------------------------------

    # ================================================== ============================
    # Add slot definitions here
    # --------------------------------
    # See sae_generic.txt for more information on "SLOT" formats
    #
    #Units Low High Fmt Expression
    #------------ ------------- ------------- ---- ---------------------------------
    *CLC-00-001
    V 0.0 5.00 .1 "{EXT.AD1}"
    AFR 10.0 18.0 .2 "(({EXT.AD1}-0.5)*3.3418)+7.35"
    *CLC-00-002
    factor 0.0 2.0 .1 "{CALC.AFR_LC11}/{GM.AFR}"


    *CLC-00-003
    V 0.0 5.00 .1 "{EXT.AD2}"
    AFR 10.0 18.0 .2 "(({EXT.AD2}-0.5)*3.3418)+7.35"
    *CLC-00-004
    factor 0.0 2.0 .1 "{CALC.AFR_LC12}/{GM.AFR}"

    # ================================================== ============================
    *PRN - Parameter Reference Numbers
    # --------------------------------
    # See sae_generic.txt for more information on the *PRN section
    #
    #Code PRN SLOT Units System Description
    #------------------------- ---- ------------ ---------------- ---------------- ---------------------------------
    CALC.AFR_LC11 F001 CLC-00-001 "V,AFR" Fuel "Wide Band AFR 1 - LC-1"
    CALC.BEN_Lc11 F002 CLC-00-002 factor Fuel "Base Efficiency Numerator 1 - LC-1"
    CALC.AFR_LC12 F003 CLC-00-003 "V,AFR" Fuel "Wide Band AFR 2 - LC-1"
    CALC.BEN_LC12 F004 CLC-00-004 factor Fuel "Base Efficiency Numerator 2 - LC-1"


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    That is what I was looking for I knew the cut and past job I did earlier was wrong.

    I will try it tomorrow and let you know how I make out.

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    WOW! That’s awesome thanks man I just cut and pasted your PID info into the user-pid and bam, info came right up. However, you must use the second analog output from the LC-1 not the first one the correct 0-5 volt rang is on the second output. On my unit it was the green wire to the flashscan neg. connection and the brown LC1-1 out wire to the positive side on the flashscan.

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