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    Just a quick update on the status of BB logging for V2.

    We are still on track to release BB logging by end of October. To use the new BB logging features will require that you update the firmware and bootblock of the FlashScan V2.
    Updating the bootblock is a one way process, once it is updated you cannot go back to the old bootblock or firmware.
    It is also a potential point of failure. If power to the V2 is interrupted during the bootblock update process it will need to be returned to EFILive to be re-programmed. The bootblock update process only takes about 2 seconds so the window for failure is extremely small.

    What that means is, if you decide to upgrade to the new BB logging enabled firmware and a problem is discovered, you will need to wait for a fix to be programmed and released. Because the technical guys from EFILive will be in the US (for SEMA and other duties) any show stopping problem(s) with the new firmware can not and will not be fixed until at least mid-late Nov.

    The reason for my concern is that I intend to make the beta BB logging firmware available to the public (as a pre-release) at the same time it is made available to the official beta testers. I made a commitment to have BB logging available by SEMA and the only way I can do that is to give you guys access to the beta firmware.

    While the beta testers will have dedicated V2 units on which to test the BB logging, the general public will not. It is up to you to decide whether you can affored to take the risk or not.

    I will post a more detailed description of the potential risks involved when we are closer to releasing the beta firmware.

    Ok, now back to my 20 hours per day getting BB logging working on FlashScan...

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    Can't wait! Thanks for the update Paul.


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    Sweet! I will defianly be in on this, as I have my old V1 for a backup
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    I know the difficulty in this is making the BB logging work with the 7.x software when it's was designed around the V8 stuff. Is this going to be the case with stand alone reading and flashing too? Or is it just going to be built and release with V8? Sorry if I come off sounding ungrateful for for BB loging, but I was just wondering....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbracing96
    I know the difficulty in this is making the BB logging work with the 7.x software when it's was designed around the V8 stuff. Is this going to be the case with stand alone reading and flashing too? Or is it just going to be built and release with V8? Sorry if I come off sounding ungrateful for for BB loging, but I was just wondering....
    Stand alone reading and flashing will not require any additional "work" to make it compatible with the V7 software. Basically you will just need to copy the *.tun files to/from the SD card.

    The software that copies files to/from the SD card is already written as part of the V8 software and will be released with the first BB logging release.

    Or you can just use an SD card reader if your PC has one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacky
    Stand alone reading and flashing will not require any additional "work" to make it compatible with the V7 software. Basically you will just need to copy the *.tun files to/from the SD card.

    The software that copies files to/from the SD card is already written as part of the V8 software and will be released with the first BB logging release.

    Or you can just use an SD card reader if your PC has one.

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    So am I understanding this correctly as the BB reading and flashing will function with the release of BB logging too? Or are you just saying that it won't take much more work to get it operational, in the near future.

    Oh and thanks for the update
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbracing96
    So am I understanding this correctly as the BB reading and flashing will function with the release of BB logging too? Or are you just saying that it won't take much more work to get it operational, in the near future.

    Oh and thanks for the update
    "it won't take much more work to get it operational, in the near future."
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    I could imagine that standalone flashing isn't a problem on the PC software side, as it probably just uses a file stored on the flash card ... (or reads & stores to flash)
    For standalone flashing, the whole logic of programming the PCM (I assume) currently in the V7 software will have to be re-implemented on the V2 unit ... but then, it's already needed (and implemented?) on the autocal unit, so it should be a straight copy (more or less)
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    I will wait for one of you guys other to try it.

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