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    Default What parameters can a RR tune?

    Just how many parameters can I tune with a RR? All? Most? Some?

    What limitations are there in using a RR?

    Say if I am going to use a 0411 PCM in my 99 K2500 454 Burb (mods are going to be done) using L31 code, using a RR PCM, can I do RTT?

    Does anyone forsee issues I might have?

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    the potential is endless, if you know how to configure it right.
    too bad the only way to apply logged data is to (paste) multiply,
    which won`t be any help if you want to subtract knock
    from your spark table or add (RAFIG) to you desired air table.
    the need to be able to change the way data is applied
    with the RR is sorely missing, and would greatly improve
    if not revive the marketability for this device.
    there doesn`t seem to be any desire to update/upgrade
    an ECU that is not being installed on newer model cars.
    i know that any company needs to move forward in it`s
    product development to keep up with what people are buying but,
    this leaves the "old/outdated" products that customers
    have purchased in the past that otherwise function perfectly
    to wither on the vine.

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    You can real time adjust any parameter in the cal, some use RTACS and make the adjustments for you, some you input yourself but its all done in real time
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick

    the potential is endless, if you know how to configure it right.
    too bad the only way to apply logged data is to (paste) multiply,
    which won`t be any help if you want to subtract knock
    from your spark table or add (RAFIG) to you desired air table.
    the need to be able to change the way data is applied
    with the RR is sorely missing, and would greatly improve
    if not revive the marketability for this device.
    there doesn`t seem to be any desire to update/upgrade
    an ECU that is not being installed on newer model cars.
    i know that any company needs to move forward in it`s
    product development to keep up with what people are buying but,
    this leaves the "old/outdated" products that customers
    have purchased in the past that otherwise function perfectly
    to wither on the vine.
    Iv'e read your beef through multiple threads about the RR. Ok, I don't get it.

    1) Do you really want to rely on a knock sensor to measure/know where peak torque/ cylinder pressure is?-or more importantly is not? The knock sensor response is not all that stellar. I am guessing when the digital input for the V2 is availible we will be able to set up a correction factor like the WBO2, only using the data from a dyno or other means...

    2) You set RAF and that's it...what's the big real time deal here?

    3) As far as the 512kb pcm being dead- I don't see any obvious advantages of the "newer" pcms as far as control of fuel/air/spark.

    Sorry for the unintentional rant. The superbowl is not so super so far.

    Back to the OP's question- You can adjust everything real time. Even the tables HP doesn't deem it necessary for you to adjust.

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    I try to avoid the HPT RTT software questions, but yes, I am very curious how well they do in comparisson.

    Any chance anyone knows how TunerCat RTOBD2 does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc
    Iv'e read your beef through multiple threads about the RR. Ok, I don't get it.

    1) Do you really want to rely on a knock sensor to measure/know where peak torque/ cylinder pressure is?-or more importantly is not? The knock sensor response is not all that stellar. I am guessing when the digital input for the V2 is availible we will be able to set up a correction factor like the WBO2, only using the data from a dyno or other means...

    2) You set RAF and that's it...what's the big real time deal here?

    3) As far as the 512kb pcm being dead- I don't see any obvious advantages of the "newer" pcms as far as control of fuel/air/spark.

    Sorry for the unintentional rant. The superbowl is not so super so far.

    Back to the OP's question- You can adjust everything real time. Even the tables HP doesn't deem it necessary for you to adjust.

    i don`t think you understood the topic,
    i`m saying it makes no sense to only be able to
    adjust tables by multiplying only.
    EFI live should have ALWAYS had the option to
    set how logged data is applied and,
    anytime i get the chance to voice this i will
    until the option becomes available or someone
    tells me why it should`nt be.
    it most likely won`t ever happen because
    of the fact that the 516kb ECU is obsolete
    and it doesn`t seem to matter to
    EFILive and Moates, that there is still some
    people that have bought this product and
    would like to see some progression with it.
    IMO there seems to be no interest in making
    the change to the software.
    after i found out that the default is to multiply
    i have tried to get this subject some attention
    and i can`t believe more people don`t want
    this option to at least be available to them
    even if they won`t use it.
    this is the only weakness that i see with the RR.
    i`m not trying to hurt feelings just venting.

    and as for the HPT "realtime" i think that you
    must manually paste to the tables you want
    to change as where the RR makes changes on it`s own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick

    it most likely won`t ever happen because
    of the fact that the 516kb ECU is obsolete
    and it doesn`t seem to matter to
    EFILive and Moates, that there is still some
    people that have bought this product and
    would like to see some progression with it.
    IMO there seems to be no interest in making
    the change to the software.
    It is actually listed on the development whiteboard on the wall, and has been for a while - I've had multiple requests for this update. Once a request goes on the whiteboard it *will* get done. I see no reason why it won't be in the next update.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick
    i`m not trying to hurt feelings just venting.
    No offense taken

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick
    i`m saying it makes no sense to only be able to
    adjust tables by multiplying only.
    EFI live should have ALWAYS had the option to
    set how logged data is applied
    Yes, you're right.
    Paul
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    awsome

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    So if I understand it correct, say if I want to adjust timing in one cell that I see an issue with, I have to multiply the value in there to get the new value?

    Example: 28 degrees I would need to multiply by 1.035ish to get to 29 degress? I can't just enter in 29?

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