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    While you're in open loop actual AFR is not tracking Commanded B3605. When it goes to closed loop Stoich is taking over.
    Suggest you look at the VE's. VE's being off is usually what causes AFR to not track in open loop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfpilla View Post
    While you're in open loop actual AFR is not tracking Commanded B3605. When it goes to closed loop Stoich is taking over.
    Suggest you look at the VE's. VE's being off is usually what causes AFR to not track in open loop.
    Question in regards to this, according to B4201 the engine determines to run the 'cold temp timer' if it's less than that particular value (9*C in my case), then according to B4203 it'll run the 'normal engine temp' timer if it's over 75*C, but what happens in between? From what I can see these timers dictate when the PCM can enable CL yet I don't see a value for temps between 'cold' and 'normal'? And as a side note, if I were to enable B4206 'Enable O2 with open loop commanded fuel', then the O2's could assist the PCM in maintaining proper AFR even if my VE's are somewhat askew yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTC_WS6 View Post
    Question in regards to this, according to B4201 the engine determines to run the 'cold temp timer' if it's less than that particular value (9*C in my case), then according to B4203 it'll run the 'normal engine temp' timer if it's over 75*C, but what happens in between?
    xxxxxxYou should be looking at B4205.

    From what I can see these timers dictate when the PCM can enable CL yet I don't see a value for temps between 'cold' and 'normal'?
    xxxxxxSee B3605.

    And as a side note, if I were to enable B4206 'Enable O2 with open loop commanded fuel', then the O2's could assist the PCM in maintaining proper AFR even if my VE's are somewhat askew yes?
    xxxxxxYou have a wideband, tune it properly. VEs have an impact under
    4000rpms in assisting fueling when the maf can't handle it.
    2003 red vert
    Mods:
    LS7 crate engine, wet sump, 24xx reluctor
    LPE 100mm MAF
    Vararam, cold air intake and bridge
    RPM Level 6/4L60e trans
    3.42 gears
    Yank SS3600
    1-7/8" AR headers
    Z06 exhaust
    470rwhp 437rwtq
    1/8th mi-1.526-60'-6.862-1/8th-@100.74mph

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfpilla View Post
    xxxxxxYou have a wideband, tune it properly. VEs have an impact under
    4000rpms in assisting fueling when the maf can't handle it.

    Alright, i'm gonna go ahead and work with the VE map in the idle area and see what kind of results I get. I'm also going to go ahead and perform an 'AutoVE' run through since I noticed on an extended cruise that my LTFT's were maxing at 25% indicating my map must be especially off. Thanks for the input thus far!
    Dave
    -'07 Acura TL Type-S
    -'07 Honda Ridgeline RTS
    -'00 Pontiac Trans Am WS6

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