BB Logging and AutoVE

[Blacky]

I would like the FlashScan to default to the 1 and only PMM file everytime it's turned on so I dont have to do that manually.

The next update of the FlashSCan BBL firmware has some new hotkeys:

Ctrl+F1 - select predefined PID selection 1.
Ctrl+F2 - select predefined PID selection 2.
Ctrl+F3 - select predefined PID selection 3.
Ctrl+F4 - select predefined PID selection 4.
On/Off - Start data logging.

So after plugging in FlashScan, you'd only need to press two keys to start logging:
Ctrl+F1, then the Start/Stop button.
Note: The Start/Stop button is the one to the right of the Ctrl key.

More info on your AutoVE requirements coming...

P.S. Just for your info, the current beta software is not how the final product will operate. The final released software will have an easy to use PC/laptop based configuration program. You won't have to mess around with editing files. You just need to bear with this manual procedure for a little while longer until the PC/laptop software is done.

Regards
Paul

[Blacky]

If you take a look in the file:
\Program Files\EFILive\V7.5\Configuration\cal_link.txt
you will see the setup for the LS1 VE table B1010

;Main VE Table
B0101.ROW=SAE.RPM
B0101.COL=SAE.MAP
B0101.RRR=CALC.BEN1,CALC.BEN2,CALC.BEN_AUT1,CALC.BEN_AUT2,CALC.BEN_FJO1,CALC.BEN_FJO2,
CALC.BEN_LC11,CALC.BENLC12,CALC.BEN_LM11,CALC.BEN_LM12,CALC.BEN_PLX1,
CALC.BEN_PLX2,CALC.BEN_TE1,CALC.BEN_TE2,CALC.BEN_WBC1,CALC.BEN_WBC2

What that means is, you need to log SAE.RPM and SAE.MAP and one of
CALC.BEN1,CALC.BEN2,CALC.BEN_AUT1,CALC.BEN_AUT2,CA LC.BEN_FJO1,CALC.BEN_FJO2,CALC.BEN_LC11,CALC.BENLC 12,CALC.BEN_LM11,CALC.BEN_LM12,CALC.BEN_PLX1,CALC. BEN_PLX2,CALC.BEN_TE1,CALC.BEN_TE2,CALC.BEN_WBC1,C ALC.BEN_WBC2
in order to use AutoVE and/or RTACS.

For an LC1 in analog mode (connected to A1), you would need to log:
CALC.BEN_LC11 (or if you connected it to A2, then you would log CALC.BEN_LC12).
The prerequisites for CALC.BEN_LC11 are:
GM.AFR for LS1 (this PID is different for E40, E38 and E67)
EXT.AD1
CALC.AFR_LC11

The prerequisites for CALC.BEN_LC12 are:
GM.AFR for LS1 (this PID is different for E40, E38 and E67)
EXT.AD2
CALC.AFR_LC12

For ANY wide band in digital mode (connected to RS232), you would need to log:
CALC.BEN1 (if you had 2 LC1s then you would ALSO log CALC.BEN2.
The prerequisites for CALC.BEN1 are:
GM.AFR for LS1 (this PID is different for E40, E38 and E67)
EXT.WO2AFR1

When you select a CALC.xxxx PID, you can see what other PIDs you need to select that it depends on by right clicking on it in the [PIDs (F8)] tab page and selecting More info...

For the High/Low octane spark maps:

B5913.ROW=SAE.RPM
B5913.COL=GM.DYNCYLAIR_DMA,GM.CYLAIR_DMA,GM.DYNCYLAIR,CALC.CYLAIR

Which means you need to log SAE.RPM and one of:
GM.DYNCYLAIR_DMA,GM.CYLAIR_DMA,GM.DYNCYLAIR,CALC.C YLAIR
I recommend using GM.DYNCYLAIR_DMA

Regards
Paul

[LS1_Dragster]

.COL=GM.DYNCYLAIR_DMA,GM.CYLAIR_DMA,GM.DYNCYLAIR,C ALC.CYLAIR[/code]Which means you need to log SAE.RPM and one of:
GM.DYNCYLAIR_DMA,GM.CYLAIR_DMA,GM.DYNCYLAIR,CALC.C YLAIR
I recommend using GM.DYNCYLAIR_DMA

Regards
Paul

How do I tell the BBL to log GM.DYNCYLAIR_DMA ??? This is the problem, it does not record it. When I have the laptop logging it does record it! Does this make sense?

[Blacky]

How do I tell the BBL to log GM.DYNCYLAIR_DMA ??? This is the problem, it does not record it. When I have the laptop logging it does record it! Does this make sense?

Make sure you specify jut DYNCYLAIR_M in the Options.ini file.
The BBL PIDs are specified without the GM. SAE. E38. prefix and the DMA PIDs are changed from _DMA to just _M

Regards
Paul

[LS1_Dragster]

OK - Done.

Now, just to let you know and give you an example of how "I FEEL" you should've answered:

Make sure you specify just DYNCYLAIR_M in the options.ini file, for example add this line to your PID section:

-, DYNCYLAIR_M

So your new section should look like this:

*PSL_LS1
;
;Node PIDs (pid1|pid2|...|pidn) Alarm (min:max:style:time*10ms:hold*sec)
;---- -------------------------- -----------------------------------------
PCM, ECT, -40:110:1:1:0
PCM, IAT
PCM, MAP
PCM, RPM, 0:6500:2:1:0
PCM, SPARKADV
PCM, TP
PCM, AFR
PCM, KR
PCM, AD1
-, DYNCYLAIR_M

This type of information will eliminate the guess work and help give us an idea of how it should look. Then in the future we'll know exactly what to do! I hope this makes sense...

I do appreciate your help and I hope I'm not too big a pain.

Lee

[joecar]

joecar - I've been flooding you guys with questions the past week or so. I didnt know you need all the details for each question!

Lee,

I read pretty much every post, I can't remember each person's setup, so you will be helping yourself if you include details in each new thread (and save me from having to dig around)... any user browsing will be more likely to chime in with an answer if they see details.

Cheers
Joe

[MICK]

Steep learning curve Lee, good to see your grabbing the bull by the horns so to speak!

Your pulling into shape very quickly now!

I bet your line of attack has changed since your first post...

Hows the Dragster coming along? I bet she sounds a bit better now!

Sounds like you have had a couple of passes in it? How did you go?

Next weekend we have the Australian Winter Nationals hear at my home track, Willowbank. Sorry rest of Aus, yes it's here again then it's heading to Sydney I think, It's my favorite time of year where the misses gives me a reprieve.

Cheers

Mick

[joecar]

Hi Lee,

You could just edit your signature (click on "User CP" at upper left of forum page) to include something similar to:

2000 LS1, 02020003, PRC 2.5, MS3, Vic Jr. intake, stock TB/MAF, PG, 4500 stall

If you log the analog WB signal, you can add the AFR/BEN calc pids in when you view the log using the scantool on your laptop (open the log, select the AFR and BEN pids for your wideband, do File->Save).

If you can get your Auto VE done, you will have these benefits:
- OLSD throttle response will be excellent,
- the AFR you command in B3647 and B3618 will be the AFR you actually get (you can set the commanded AFR to give the best TQ/HP from your experience or from published data... no guessing around required... saves you a lot of time at the track...),
- you will be confident that the AFR will safe (make best TQ/HP and protect motor).

In the other thread you ask about power valve and pump shot "tables"... since you're going from zero throttle to WOT I don't think those yet-to-be-found tables matter... a dialed in VE table with a suitable commanded AFR (B3647, B3618) will give you very good results regardless.

Like MICK said, it is a steep learning curve... but you're doing fine (time deadlines are a great motivator... )...there is alot of reading involved (90% reading, 10% application) ...keep asking questions, you're not a pain, sometimes things "move" slowly on the forum, but they will eventually be answered.

Cheers,
Joe

[LS1_Dragster]

Thanks guys, I feel I have a pretty good idea how things work now, just enough to go crazy.

No passes on the dragster yet, that's the problem. My wife has been patient with me but the season is passing her by and she wants to get out there and race. So the home front is not smooth right now!

Right now all I can do is zing the RPM and adjust the MAP in those areas, this way I should be able to at least get a smoother MAP towards WOT then I have now. It runs far better and getting better all the time.

One thing that really hurts compared to the Holley Commander is no real time adjusting. I know there is roadrunner but I just dont want to learn anymore software/hardware at this time.

It will be at the track this Friday even if I have to drag it down the strip with the golf cart......

[LS1_Dragster]

Question - in the options.ini I want to record the MAP in kPa instead of inHg, what do I change this setting to?

PCM,MAP, M'Fold, 1,psi, /, 6.894757,

This way the logged data will match the tun program.