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Thread: Commanded Fuel when in open loop and PE modifier based on RPM

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    R.I.P Shawn, 1956-2011 WeathermanShawn's Avatar
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    Yes, it can be enabled for any TPS %.

    The table you need to look at is B3616.

    For instance I have mine set to enable from 15-20% 1600 rpm's up. In my case it has really helped push in a little more fuel when under load.

    I am running closed-loop with MAF. Ran flawlessly this week on a run at elevations near 12,000 feet. For me I am essentially using the PE function as a 'semi-open loop', and after 2-3 months of learning and effort I am very pleased with my tune.

    Hope it works out well for you.

    ..WeathermanShawn..
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    200cc Heads, 228/232 110+2 Cam, 1 3/4" LT's w/catts, GMMG, Koni Shocks, Hotchkis Springs, 35/21 Sways, 17" ZR1's, 3.90 Gears Roadrunner PCM LM-2 Serial Wideband
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    Shawn, if you're running that high up, your airmass is a lot smaller than in normal conditions. Your effective compression is much smaller than it would be at sea level, so you could probably get away with a much more aggressive settings for PE activation, as it takes a lot more effort for your car to hit the compressions where you'd need the enriched mixture. same goes for timing, but that's automatically covered since the timing table is on a airmass axis.

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    Marcin, thanks for the tip.

    I will definitely do some testing at various loads and elevations over the next few months.

    Scientifically I understand what you are saying about altitude and compression. My sea-level CR is ~11.0:1, but even at this higher elevation I have had to constantly fight that inevitable pinging and occasional knock.

    This was the first tune I put over 300 miles on and beat the ping!

    Again thanks for the tip.

    ..WeathermanShawn..
    2002 Black Camaro Z-28 M6 Hardtop 11.0:1CR 425HP/410TQ SAE (400TQ@3500RPM)
    200cc Heads, 228/232 110+2 Cam, 1 3/4" LT's w/catts, GMMG, Koni Shocks, Hotchkis Springs, 35/21 Sways, 17" ZR1's, 3.90 Gears Roadrunner PCM LM-2 Serial Wideband
    EFILive Closed-Loop MAF/SD Hybrid Tune..


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    hm, you might be confusing a ping coming from too much timing per compression, with a ping that happens from high load as a result of going up hills, which happens a lot at altitude, unless you're at some huge plateau.

    i spent few weeks trying to pinpoint a cause of ping in this supercharged cts-v once, and it turned out that the owner was just lazy and thought driving up a hill in 5th gear with a 4000+lb car is OK. hills don't show up in logs, to me it just pinged at random. this is why dynos and steady flow conditions are golden.

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    Agree.

    Down shifting cures many a problem. It is easy to 'lug' up hills if you don't figure out it is time to down shift.

    Fixed it though.

    Yes, the dyno is a good controlled way to figure out many a problem. Terrain and elevation has its own unique challenges.

    Talk to you later.

    ..WeathermanShawn..
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    200cc Heads, 228/232 110+2 Cam, 1 3/4" LT's w/catts, GMMG, Koni Shocks, Hotchkis Springs, 35/21 Sways, 17" ZR1's, 3.90 Gears Roadrunner PCM LM-2 Serial Wideband
    EFILive Closed-Loop MAF/SD Hybrid Tune..


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    Yes, one is pre-ignition, the other detonation, they work differently but have similar results.

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    Marcin, CFOL == OLFA (the table).

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