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    Quote Originally Posted by swingtan View Post
    OK, got it all installed... finally..... I have a couple of questions though.

    1. The new install process logs everything so that it knows what needs to be uninstalled at a later date. Checking the "un-install" file indicates that it will remove my home directory. Is this correct or am I getting worried over nothing?



      As you can see we have networked "home" drives and we run a roaming profile. I wounder if this has caused an issue?
    2. Progressing with the roaming profile stuff, is it possible to include an option to change the default "user location", like we can with the default "program location"? Given the laptop I use has this roaming profile, I can't actually run EFILive with it using my home directory. The quota settings result in EFILive locking up with no disk space. What I have been doing is to move all that data to a different directory under C:\ and then manually editing the registry to point to the new location. It works fine, but makes upgrades a little more work


    Simon.
    The uninstaller won't remove anything that it did not install itself.
    And some things that it did install it will leave when uninstalling - such as the license file and other user settings. (Some messed up installs actually did remove the license file and user data but this latest one should not).

    You can change the folders in the V7 Scan Tool properties window.
    V7 is not configured for roaming profiles. (Version 8 is/will be).

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    Excellent. I had to check after being bitten once before. I had an application that decided it needed to remove c:\windows\system32 when it uninstalled its self.....

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    Was it written by someone called "0wn3d"?
    Get EFILive in europe (http://www.efilive.eu).
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    my experience with 7.5.5 (Build 70):

    files overwritten by new version
    cal.link
    calc.pids
    license
    filters
    favorites

    EFILive Explorer folder is now V8 instead of V8.1

    bootblock is V2.06.02 not V2.06.01
    firmware is V2.06.03 not V2.06.01

    on firmware tab Formware Date is displayed:
    it should be Firmware Date (or should it?)

    Ctrl button on V2 does not work during self test but it does work.

    Application Data folder installed in
    C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\EFILive
    not in C:\Program Data\EFILive\V8

    i am not complaining.
    IIRC it is my duty as a beta tester to say something

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay p View Post
    I will try and send you an error report tomorrow after I get up (work nights). I will also try a complete uninstall including the registry entries and see if that helps.

    Jay


    I uninstalled EFILive, cleaned out the registry, deleted all EFILive folders and reinstalled EFILive. Now everything is working fine. Must be a Vista problem. I also installed it on my old laptop with XP without deleting anything or cleaning the registry and it works fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    my experience with 7.5.5 (Build 70):

    files overwritten by new version
    cal.link
    calc.pids
    license
    filters
    favorites

    EFILive Explorer folder is now V8 instead of V8.1

    bootblock is V2.06.02 not V2.06.01
    firmware is V2.06.03 not V2.06.01

    on firmware tab Formware Dateis displayed:
    it should be Firmware Date (or should it?)

    Ctrl button on V2 does not work during self test but it does work.

    Application Data folder installed in
    C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\EFILive
    not in C:\Program Data\EFILive\V8

    i am not complaining.
    IIRC it is my duty as a beta tester to say something
    Hey, no that's great......many eyes helps.

    Paul, check out the items above...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay p View Post
    I uninstalled EFILive, cleaned out the registry, deleted all EFILive folders and reinstalled EFILive. Now everything is working fine. Must be a Vista problem. I also installed it on my old laptop with XP without deleting anything or cleaning the registry and it works fine.

    Jay
    Jay, glad you got it working...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    my experience with 7.5.5 (Build 70):

    files overwritten by new version
    cal.link
    calc.pids
    license
    filters
    favorites
    They are not meant to be overwritten - I will investigate.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    EFILive Explorer folder is now V8 instead of V8.1
    It has been changed deliberately to prevent new folders being required when upgrading to V8.2.x, 8.3.x, etc.
    You can delete the V8.1 folder once V8.1.2 is installed into the V8 folder.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    bootblock is V2.06.02 not V2.06.01
    firmware is V2.06.03 not V2.06.01
    Typo, has been fixed in the V8.1.2 update. Have you performed the "Check for updates" yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    on firmware tab Formware Date is displayed:
    it should be Firmware Date (or should it?)
    Typo :(

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    Ctrl button on V2 does not work during self test but it does work.
    The Ctrl button is different to the rest of the keys on the keypad. It has been deliberately excluded from the test. The test will be expanded to test for Ctrl+<each key> sometime in a future update.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    Application Data folder installed in
    C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\EFILive
    not in C:\Program Data\EFILive\V8
    Vista will install to C:\Program Data\EFILive\V8
    XP/2K will install to: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\EFILive

    Blame Microsoft for that little gem of consistency.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    i am not complaining.
    IIRC it is my duty as a beta tester to say something
    Thanks for the feedback

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    Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacky View Post
    They are not meant to be overwritten - I will investigate.



    It has been changed deliberately to prevent new folders being required when upgrading to V8.2.x, 8.3.x, etc.
    You can delete the V8.1 folder once V8.1.2 is installed into the V8 folder.



    Typo, has been fixed in the V8.1.2 update. Have you performed the "Check for updates" yet?



    Typo :(



    The Ctrl button is different to the rest of the keys on the keypad. It has been deliberately excluded from the test. The test will be expanded to test for Ctrl+<each key> sometime in a future update.



    Vista will install to C:\Program Data\EFILive\V8
    XP/2K will install to: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\EFILive

    Blame Microsoft for that little gem of consistency.


    Thanks for the feedback

    Regards
    Paul
    Paul, forgive me, but didn't you say some time back that moving into V8, you would get away from Micro$oft$ screwyness and make it so that in order to uninstall EFILive, all you'd have to do is delete a single folder? Having some in the Program files (or Porgram Files (x86) for those running Vista) and Program data and My Documents, as well as the registry, I'd assume, uninstallation wouldn't be quite that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar281 View Post
    Paul, forgive me, but didn't you say some time back that moving into V8, you would get away from Micro$oft$ screwyness and make it so that in order to uninstall EFILive, all you'd have to do is delete a single folder? Having some in the Program files (or Porgram Files (x86) for those running Vista) and Program data and My Documents, as well as the registry, I'd assume, uninstallation wouldn't be quite that simple.
    I tried, I really, really tried but Microsoft screwed me over. Here's what happened...

    1. Under Windows XP I had version 8 working and running 100% in the C:\Program Files\EFILive\V8 folder. To uninstall, just delete the folder and the start menu and desktop shortcuts.

    2. Then Vista came along with its new "security" model. Vista (by default) prevents applications from modifying files in C:\Program Files for security reasons. The only way to get around that is to give the application higher privileges.

    3. So where should I store data that is to be modified by the software but not directly editable by the user? (i.e. Options.txt and *.ini files since I'm no longer using the registry)

    4. Microsoft's solution (on Vista) was to create a new folder called C:\ProgramData (notice they obviously learned their lesson from the "Program Files" fiasco and did not include a space in the ProgramData folder name).

    5. Problem is there is no C:\ProgramData on earlier versions of Windows by default.

    6. Microsoft's solution is that developers should use \Documents and settings\All users\Application Data on earlier versions of Windows.

    Microsoft -> <- Me

    I seriously considered just installing EFILive into C:\EFILive and just opting out of Microsoft's "best practices" altogether. I may still do that...

    Actually I have been browsing for a Mac so I can port EFILive on to Mac OSX. The majority of my software development life has been writing C on Unix, so doing a Mac port would be like "going home".

    Regards
    Paul
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