E38 TIS Programming warning

[doubledip]

JUST USE EFI LIVE...

For most of the time...TIS FAILS...ESPECIALLY, when your internet connection is not fast...Not sure why cause the files are cached on your computer.

Anyway....When updating E40s and E38s with new OSs, use your head and DON'T USE ONLINE TIS. USE EFI LIVE for OS changes whenever possible on E40 and E38 cars. TIS SUCKS.

I think the TIS subscription on DVD is better and more reliable....BUT, the online TIS BLOWS...Especially when the internet varies.

LS1 pcms usually die and E40s always suck.

Early E38s have caused problems and sometimes die, and occasionally HPT will make them talk again.

I've seen several T43s die in the middle of a TIS flash and TIS or EFI LIVE will bring them back to life.

I had a T43 die on a TIS flash twice in Chicago the other day...It took me 2 hours to BOMBARD it with TIS, HPT, and EFI LIVE flash attempts to revive her....

Lucky for me, the combo of FLASH ATTEMPTS was kinda like a defribliator bringing a PCM back to life. Not sure why..But, the customer was happy.

To date....I've never roasted a T43 and I play with them a bunch.

Can't say that for LS1, E40, and E38's. I always cringe and hold my breath when I do an OS change.

What's your experience?
Chuck CoW

you cant use EFI Live when you have a brand new E38 and flashing to a Holden tune.... Do that and you will have alot of mysterious throttle problems...

TIS is needed and I have the DVD's not the online subscription.. wasnt going to pay a $1000 to flash one PCM then come day one of the 2nd year have to resubscribe to do another DVD will always be there....

only ever need it to put a base tune in the ECU.. then flash in the changes later

[Redline Motorsports]

JUST USE EFI LIVE...

For most of the time...TIS FAILS...ESPECIALLY, when your internet connection is not fast...Not sure why cause the files are cached on your computer.

Anyway....When updating E40s and E38s with new OSs, use your head and DON'T USE ONLINE TIS. USE EFI LIVE for OS changes whenever possible on E40 and E38 cars. TIS SUCKS.

I think the TIS subscription on DVD is better and more reliable....BUT, the online TIS BLOWS...Especially when the internet varies.

LS1 pcms usually die and E40s always suck.

Early E38s have caused problems and sometimes die, and occasionally HPT will make them talk again.

I've seen several T43s die in the middle of a TIS flash and TIS or EFI LIVE will bring them back to life.

I had a T43 die on a TIS flash twice in Chicago the other day...It took me 2 hours to BOMBARD it with TIS, HPT, and EFI LIVE flash attempts to revive her....

Lucky for me, the combo of FLASH ATTEMPTS was kinda like a defribliator bringing a PCM back to life. Not sure why..But, the customer was happy.

To date....I've never roasted a T43 and I play with them a bunch.

Can't say that for LS1, E40, and E38's. I always cringe and hold my breath when I do an OS change.

What's your experience?
Chuck CoW

C,

Are you seeing this mostly with the Mongoose cable?

Howard

[doubledip]

I personally use a mongoose cable.. but i have been to the dealership and used both the TECH 2 and MDI cable with just the same hit miss rate.. both with TIS DVD and TIS2WEB.

[gmh308]

you cant use EFI Live when you have a brand new E38 and flashing to a Holden tune.... Do that and you will have alot of mysterious throttle problems...

TIS is needed and I have the DVD's not the online subscription.. wasnt going to pay a $1000 to flash one PCM then come day one of the 2nd year have to resubscribe to do another DVD will always be there....

only ever need it to put a base tune in the ECU.. then flash in the changes later

Gotta love those mysterious throttle problems with Holden E38's.

[Chuck CoW]

C,

Are you seeing this mostly with the Mongoose cable?

Howard

I don't really use the TECH II for TIS FLASHES.... The mongoose is KEY!

I personally think that MDI, TECH II, MONGOSE all suck when it comes to TIS FLASHES...But, it's not the hardware.....

I use EFI LIVE (when they permit such things) for full flashes.

As valuable as TIS is....it's like a bad girlfriend.... YOU JUST CAN'T TRUST HER when you turn your back.

Chuck CoW

[gmh308]

I don't really use the TECH II for TIS FLASHES.... The mongoose is KEY!

I personally think that MDI, TECH II, MONGOSE all suck when it comes to TIS FLASHES...But, it's not the hardware.....

I use EFI LIVE (when they permit such things) for full flashes.
As valuable as TIS is....it's like a bad girlfriend.... YOU JUST CAN'T TRUST HER when you turn your back.

Chuck CoW

Great vote of confidence!

[GMPX]

I only ever use the Mongoose, I don't have 20 minutes to wait for the TechII to program an E38

I just heard about this MDI thing, I wonder if GM will kill off Mongoose support now this thing is out.

Cheers,
Ross

[doubledip]

What do you mean by kill off??? (bit hard when it is a protocol - not a device that you choose to program with)

the MDI has been out for a while... and there are a fair few more devices along the same line out/coming out very shortly.. the mongoose is an awesome piece of hardware and they have priced it well (but doing so makes it only able to do certain protocols) . If you need to do all the protocols they have the cardaq but the price is also a lot more...

I am going to prob get rid of the mongoose and go with one of the newer all in one devices soon once a mate has tested it a bit more as they will be able to also program F...F...F... FORD (there said it)

[Chuck CoW]

I only ever use the Mongoose, I don't have 20 minutes to wait for the TechII to program an E38

I just heard about this MDI thing, I wonder if GM will kill off Mongoose support now this thing is out.

Cheers,
Ross

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DG

MDI SOUNDS NICE...... Wouldn't you like to flash controllers WIRELESSLY???

I mean, you could sip on a margarita in your office and flash a controller in a vehicle OUTSIDE in your driveway....

Pretty Effen' NEET!

I want one!
Chuck CoW

[doubledip]

Yes well wirelessly is where it can, and i have seen it all fall down in a heap...


At Holden ... programming from a laptop using the MDI

Interent (TIS2WEB)-- > laptop wireless --> MDI wireless programming an E38


DEAD.... :( but what failed ???? was it the interent slow ???, wireless dropped out from laptop to router... wirless from laptop to mdi... i feel the less unknowns the better when palying round with these things IMO..