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    I'd like to start playing with this. I'm moving my business computers to Linux, our file server and my desk are already there.

    I've already got our CAD software running on it under WINE. Runs better under WINE than it does under Win7. Go figure.

    Apple is OpenBSD "Darwin" IIRC. Kinda like Linux, but it's not.

    I'm running Ubuntu 32-bit Linux.
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    OK, using the Crossover version of WINE, and starting with the latest version of EFILive 7, it decompresses, throws up the Splash screen, then asks if you want to update the registry. At that point it freezes. Neither Win98/XP/Vista bottles would do it.

    I'll see if it will manually install.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McRat View Post
    OK, using the Crossover version of WINE, and starting with the latest version of EFILive 7, it decompresses, throws up the Splash screen, then asks if you want to update the registry. At that point it freezes. Neither Win98/XP/Vista bottles would do it.

    I'll see if it will manually install.
    I got EFILive to install and run, just no USB after so no controller communication .
    You have to some how tie the USB driver recognition and install to the Codeweaver install or get the Codeweaver install to use USB communication through the EFILive software.
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    Thanks for reminding me, I still got that free codeweavers key I gotta use.
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    Don't bother with the Crossover for playing with EFILive, it currently won't work.

    I loaded Wine 1.2 rc2 and it loaded fine.

    Yes, the USB thingy is an issue, and I'm trying the "fix". If it works, I'll post how I did it.

    It's pretty complicated for a newbie like me and required recompiling Wine it seems. After 2 hours I still didn't get it completely set up. I'll try again today.

    Paul - I put in a service ticket at Codeweaver, there is a problem with their system and the EFILive installer. I uh, well.... also mentioned to them that you are interested in a Linux port. Don't hate me. they do that stuff professionally and are top level Wine developers (they develop Wine and the Codeweaver product).

    Sure, Wine is not really native Linux, but you can't really tell. It hauls butt, and doesn't require a Win license or Win updates. Any solution that works, works. Plus it would allow you to package a Linux version without releasing source code for EFILive, which I don't believe the Linux license permits?
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    Wendy - 06 GMC 2500 LBZ 12.50 @ 107.5 First LBZ into the 12's. 542rwhp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McRat View Post
    Don't bother with the Crossover for playing with EFILive, it currently won't work.

    I loaded Wine 1.2 rc2 and it loaded fine.

    Yes, the USB thingy is an issue, and I'm trying the "fix". If it works, I'll post how I did it.

    It's pretty complicated for a newbie like me and required recompiling Wine it seems. After 2 hours I still didn't get it completely set up. I'll try again today.

    Paul - I put in a service ticket at Codeweaver, there is a problem with their system and the EFILive installer. I uh, well.... also mentioned to them that you are interested in a Linux port. Don't hate me. they do that stuff professionally and are top level Wine developers (they develop Wine and the Codeweaver product).

    Sure, Wine is not really native Linux, but you can't really tell. It hauls butt, and doesn't require a Win license or Win updates. Any solution that works, works. Plus it would allow you to package a Linux version without releasing source code for EFILive, which I don't believe the Linux license permits?
    Good to hear that you are pursuing this further , I didn't give up just got sidetracked .
    Will try with openSUSE WINE if I get some time in the next few days .
    Codeweaver will write code to support the USB but at a cost , the Serial to USB chip that is used by the V2 shows to be driver supported already in the Kernel .
    Do keep us posted as to what you find out .
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    <<<<< DO NOT USE THIS >>>>>

    Saving this for notes. This is the "fix" for running USB support under Wine. It takes over an hour to compile, type these commands in 1 by 1 in the Terminal:

    Code:
    git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git ~/wine-git
    cd ~/wine-git
    
    sudo apt-get build-dep wine
    sudo apt-get install libusb-1.0-0-dev
    
    git branch usb-1.1.28 wine-1.1.28
    git checkout usb-1.1.28
    wget ftp://ftp.etersoft.ru/pub/people/amorozov/usb/1.1.28/0001-Add-support-of-native-Windows-drivers-for-USB-tokens.txt
    wget ftp://ftp.etersoft.ru/pub/people/amorozov/usb/1.1.28/0002-Re-generate-some-files.txt
    git am 0001-Add-support-of-native-Windows-drivers-for-USB-tokens.txt 0002-Re-generate-some-files.txt
    ./tools/make_makefiles
    ./configure
    make depend
    make
    sudo make install
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    Big Blue - 04.5 GMC 3500SRW LLY 13.12 @ 104, 502rwhp sled puller
    Wendy - 06 GMC 2500 LBZ 12.50 @ 107.5 First LBZ into the 12's. 542rwhp.
    Blue Meanie - 02 Z06 11.40 @ 121 AFR H/C

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevy366 View Post
    Good to hear that you are pursuing this further , I didn't give up just got sidetracked .
    Will try with openSUSE WINE if I get some time in the next few days .
    Codeweaver will write code to support the USB but at a cost , the Serial to USB chip that is used by the V2 shows to be driver supported already in the Kernel .
    Do keep us posted as to what you find out .
    Fellow Linux enthusiast.
    OK, I need you to do me a favor. Put a program on a USB memory stick, and try to open it with EFILive under Wine.
    I forgot to check before the "fix".

    Right now, I can open USB files running EFILive under Wine, but I cannot see the V2 unit.
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    Casper - 05 GMC 2500 Dmax LLY 10.59 @ 129, 916rwhp
    Big Blue - 04.5 GMC 3500SRW LLY 13.12 @ 104, 502rwhp sled puller
    Wendy - 06 GMC 2500 LBZ 12.50 @ 107.5 First LBZ into the 12's. 542rwhp.
    Blue Meanie - 02 Z06 11.40 @ 121 AFR H/C

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    Pat, with all due respect, it sounds like you're blowing way more time getting EFILive to just work under Linux than you spent "Managing & Updating" Windows, where "Stuff just works".

    I told one of my friends that DOES know linux very well what you said about Windows being harder/more time consuming to administer and update than linux and his exact words where "He's Nuts".

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    Quote Originally Posted by McRat View Post
    OK, I need you to do me a favor. Put a program on a USB memory stick, and try to open it with EFILive under Wine.
    I forgot to check before the "fix".

    Right now, I can open USB files running EFILive under Wine, but I cannot see the V2 unit.
    Okay , if I get a chance this weekend , never mind Winders users comments , you know install Winders , now I have to install every driver and restart 20 times , wow so easy . ;-0
    I have to say in Winders things do just work , Viruses , Trojans , Back Door Key Loggers , so he is correct . ;-)
    Of course buy a Laptop/Netbook , Desktop with Winders pre-installed , no sweat , see how easy that was . ;-)
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