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    Default Log BEN1 but cant see it on Map

    When I log I can see it on my pid list on scan tool after moving my log from EFI explorer to my logs. What I mean is when reviewing my log I can see on the data what the air fuel is from my lm1 but I cant get my Map for ve with lm1 to see the ben factor. It just has a line through the top of it.

    i am useing the latest update as well. What do I need to have to see it in the map?
    2000 NBM trans am.
    427 Dart ship block,Lme ported Ls7 heads 12.5 compression
    246/262 .730/.712 112+4 low lash solid roller
    Rmvb 4l80 with transbrake, 8" FTI converter
    12 bolt Moser rear end with 4.10 gears

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    I went to map and it said ben 1 not selected. I went back to pids and for some reason when it comes from the v2 to scantool, that pid is not selected to view log.
    I selected it on my own and it worked.


    Now another question, my car idles around 72kpa on the map. In that area on b3605 it is commanding 1.11-1.12 so there for it asking to idle rich. Is that why when I look at my map it is so far out from 1.00 factor?

    I think my lower ve table is way to low . I had a tuner that is pretty damn good tell me that the big cam will want less in the lower rpm range so I lowered the ve table to what he said. now it seems that its quite lean and this thing wants more.

    My setup is a 347 forged rods and pistons. with 249/243 .612/.612 cam motion cam. 112 lsa 110 icl.
    I am using 5.3 heads milled down to 54 cc chambers with 2.0int. 1.60 exh valves that flow in the upper 280's and am running a 6.0 truck intake with the stock 75mm throttle body. This setup is in a 2300 lb chevy II Nova with a th350 and 8" BTE converter around 5300 stall. I will change intakes to a better one after I see what this one can do. 4.11 gears and 31x13x15 M/T slicks.

    I have not opened the hole any in the throttle blade but this thing idles pretty well with the maf only tune that I put in untill my ve table is straight.

    When I run in maf only , the car has great throttle response revving and idles great . It is a drag only setup , I wanted to tune in speed density but it may just be a maf tune since it idles so well and if I rev it , it revs great.

    If I go that route, whats the best way to dial in the maf for wot? could I cheat the pe table untill I see my af ratio where I want it? or would I be better doing a maf calibration with the wideband?

    My problem is at idle, my lm1 reads up to 19/1 af even though it idles great and repsonds quick. SHould the wideband show that at Idle with that size cam?
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    2000 NBM trans am.
    427 Dart ship block,Lme ported Ls7 heads 12.5 compression
    246/262 .730/.712 112+4 low lash solid roller
    Rmvb 4l80 with transbrake, 8" FTI converter
    12 bolt Moser rear end with 4.10 gears

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    Just thought I would share my project so you all know what this engine is in.
    2000 NBM trans am.
    427 Dart ship block,Lme ported Ls7 heads 12.5 compression
    246/262 .730/.712 112+4 low lash solid roller
    Rmvb 4l80 with transbrake, 8" FTI converter
    12 bolt Moser rear end with 4.10 gears

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    What are you using for injectors (Part number)/fuel pressure regulator?
    2003 Chevy S10 4.3L LU3 LS1B Auto
    48 LB injectors
    Race Proven Motors 2114 intake
    T70 turbo.

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    I am using ford 30 lb/hr red tops with a corvette fuel filter that is a return line and psi regulator all in one.
    2000 NBM trans am.
    427 Dart ship block,Lme ported Ls7 heads 12.5 compression
    246/262 .730/.712 112+4 low lash solid roller
    Rmvb 4l80 with transbrake, 8" FTI converter
    12 bolt Moser rear end with 4.10 gears

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    So it is not vacuum referenced?
    2003 Chevy S10 4.3L LU3 LS1B Auto
    48 LB injectors
    Race Proven Motors 2114 intake
    T70 turbo.

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    Aint Skeered,

    When connecting with the laptop, you may need to do Validate Pids one time.

    Nice drag car......very light mass.

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    You may want to disable DFCO... set B3313 to 284°F.

    If you don't have the AIR pump, you may want to disable the AIR pump... set B0204 to zero.

    To calibrate the MAF table you need several things:
    0. measure fuel rail pressure... if it varies by more than +/-2 psi then find out why;
    1. calculate the IFR table using the spreadsheet (your FPR has no intake manifold vacuum hose, right...?);
    2. calibrate the VE table using wideband (AutoVE);
    3. calibrate MAF (AutoMAF): set B0120 to zero, enable MAF, and follow similar procedure to AutoVE but apply/multiply to B5001.

    Some comments:
    - OLSD will give you quickest throttle response (SD and MAF make same HP & TQ, but OL/SD have no distance/time delays from sensors... i.e. instantaneous table look ups... if tables are correct then response is excellent);
    - OLSD is perfect for drag racing;
    - get the last 3 columns of B3605 sufficiently rich for WOT (something like 12.8) and ramp with rest of table;
    - make B3618 same as last 3 columns of B3605 (you can AutoVE like this);
    - get IFR/VE correct and then follow the idle tutorial (try to avoid drilling the blade).

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    Once you get the VE table good, and set suitable AFRs in B3605/B3618, the cam will be happy everywhere it was designed for.

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    Thanks Joe, I will try this tomorrow. I went and had my exhaust put on it today. ( 3" bullets) and went and had the car scaled at a lumber yard. I dont know how true it is but they said 2480 with out me in it. It weighed that with the big block on another scale so I am going to take it to get weighed on race car scales.

    I drove it about 2 miles today by my brothers house in the country and my wideband show lean. It Idles around 18-19/1 and when I went Wot , it showed around 14.1/1 I got out of it but did not hear any pinging but did not have my v2 hooked up as I forgot it at home. I am going to the track if it does not rain Sunday and I will try to get the ve closer. Right now it is in full maf mode. It does have a stumble when I first hit the gas peddle and then it jumps and take the gas just fine.


    Now that the exhaust is on I will do some more short trips to get it close.
    2000 NBM trans am.
    427 Dart ship block,Lme ported Ls7 heads 12.5 compression
    246/262 .730/.712 112+4 low lash solid roller
    Rmvb 4l80 with transbrake, 8" FTI converter
    12 bolt Moser rear end with 4.10 gears

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