RoadRunner guts kit?

[N0DIH]

Connect up with a Mini-USB cable direct to it, forget that ribbon wire. You might want to ohm it out to be sure, but some of the goofy errors are due to the ribbon. USB is sorta fast for a non twisted pair, so the errors are probably pretty high.

I just tried to update my firmware and I got a "firmware package checksum mismatch, package is corrupt" error I just downloaded it here http://www.moates.net/documentation....entation_id=22 I guess i will e-mail Craig and ask what's up.

[s10mods]

i'm at work now, I will try it when I get home, I am hoping it is something to do with the serial cable, I need to get some of those Molex usb units.

[CC&M]

I seen the cal, but I don't have the VDF to support it.

[s10mods]

ok, I guess my RR must suck, I can flash in any V8 file with TC but I cannot flash in a v6 file with TC, I hooked directly to the usb port and still no luck, I even put the RR in to the 717 pcm with no luck, so I figured i'm just out of luck with the v6 setup. Since I was playing, I picked up a few RR headers and installed one in to a 1024K 2004 pcm, I tried to flash a 04 file in to it with EFILive and I get a "currently loaded tune file compatible with RR device, This RR device emulates teh LS1 512K PCM the current tune file cannot be loaded into this RR device." error, I guess my RR is a POS and has no ablities that you guys have, I guess I will have to save and buy another one for my 1024K use. and I guess I am just screwed for the v6 setup.

[s10mods]

EFILive and RR should work in any PCM we support that it can be squeezed in to, so that also means the 4cyl (LS1 style) PCM. But, I'm not sure it is actually enabled to work with it. I think some people actually got it working in the Allison TCM too.

E40 uses a different flash chip than the LS1 style PCM, E38 is different again, plus the E38 CPU clock speed is 56MHz or something like that, I'm not sure the RR was ever designed to run that fast. But finally, the real estate issue on the E40 & E38.

Cheers,
Ross

Ross, I tried to flash my RR with a 1024K truck file with efilive and I get a "currently loaded tune file is not compatible with RR device, This RR device emulates the LS1 512K PCM the current tune file cannot be loaded into this RR device."
Do I need to update my software to be able to flash in a different than 512K calibration or is it my RR that's not accepting the file? Thanks
Joe

[s10mods]

Can someone with a 512K RR and efilive try to flash a 1024K file in to their RR? according GMPX in post 27 the RR should work with anything EFILive supports, I can flash my RR with TC but not EFILive, I have given up on the V6 support, but I would like 03+V8 support which should be possable.

[N0DIH]

IIRC there is only 1 RR, it supports 384k, 512k and 1024k. So files are the same.

Did you get the 12.14R flashed in yours?

Can someone with a 512K RR and efilive try to flash a 1024K file in to their RR? according GMPX in post 27 the RR should work with anything EFILive supports, I can flash my RR with TC but not EFILive, I have given up on the V6 support, but I would like 03+V8 support which should be possable.

[s10mods]

right, my RR says 1024 right on it, and I can flash it in TC but I get an error with efilive. "currently loaded tune file compatible with RR device, This RR device emulates teh LS1 512K PCM the current tune file cannot be loaded into this RR device."

I emailed craig about the 12.14 but I have not had a response yet and I sent it early this week.

[N0DIH]

I am wondering... his site says nothing anywhere on whether or not there is more than one flavor of RR... I think they are ALL 1MB RR's. The reason I say that is the pinout is all compatible from the 28F400 and 28F800. (Black Box and N* (older) user 28F400's and LS1 (up to 2002) and all V6 up to 98-05 GTP use 28F800's. What do the 1MB PCM's use?

Edit: My 2003 PCM that I pulled the memory is a 28F800 also so that is why the RR is a "one size fits all", the 717's (2000-2001 V6) use a 28F800, but only put 512k on it. The 03-up LSx uses the 28F800, but puts a full 1MB on it. So I am guessing the 0411's and the like are same, put a 512k file on a 1MB part. Makes sense. so the question is, and it should (I have heard a rumor that it will) the Black Box PCM's from the OBS trucks, 98-00 will support the RR also, as they have a 28F400. But the housing makes it impossible to fit the RR, so a custom housing is needed.




Craig's site says:

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"This is JUST the Roadrunner emulator, installation header, weatherproof connector, internal standoffs, and USB cable. If you're dead-set on installing it in your own PCM, then this is what you want. Be sure you can handle desoldering a PSOP44 flash chip and soldering down a 44-pin installation header. You'll need to cut a 3/4" hole in the case of the PCM as well. Not for the faint of heart, but you can save some money over the plug-n-play-prepped PCMs. I will have tested your Roadrunner in a working PCM prior to shipment, but if you fail to install the device correctly or the PCM isn't correct or working properly, then you'll be stuck. It's possible to damage the Roadrunner as well as your PCM (fair warning). Don't be paranoid, but don't be a hero either. I'm not looking for tech support nightmares, just trying to save you guys some money."

[mr.prick]

Here is an article on the Flash-Based Factory PCMs

The flash chip is the difference between the 1mb and 516k.
The first RR`s had no flash chip in them and now they do.
It would be interesting to see if you can upload a 1mb file to a 516k PCM.
I`m not going to try it though.