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    Default timing bouncing in maf only tune

    Can some one look at my short log and tell me why my timing is bouncing up and down?

    I thought I would start a thread just for this.

    I am not sure if this is a good mass air or not, It was diagnosed as being bad by a tuner that could not fix my idle so he told me my maf was bad. It seems to be working , it is a stock 75mm 2000 f body maf with screen removed.

    Am I mssing something in my tune or does it look like a bad maff?


    This is on my chevy II nova. It is a race car only and am trying to tune with maf only. This is why I have the injectors scaled -6%. I am going to have to pull more from them, still on the lean side.
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    427 Dart ship block,Lme ported Ls7 heads 12.5 compression
    246/262 .730/.712 112+4 low lash solid roller
    Rmvb 4l80 with transbrake, 8" FTI converter
    12 bolt Moser rear end with 4.10 gears

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    If you are talking about the fluctuations at idle they pretty well match your idle overspeed/ underspeed error.
    Is this an auto or manual trans?
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    fI am talking about there and when I get on the throttle it surges up and down.

    THis is a th350 8" converter that should flash around 5000
    2000 NBM trans am.
    427 Dart ship block,Lme ported Ls7 heads 12.5 compression
    246/262 .730/.712 112+4 low lash solid roller
    Rmvb 4l80 with transbrake, 8" FTI converter
    12 bolt Moser rear end with 4.10 gears

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    If you log an airmass pid like GM.CYLAIR_DMA it should give a better indication of why the spark is acting like that.
    B5933 base spark in park/neutral may need a bit of work to smooth transitions into the high octane table as well.
    The Tremor at AIR

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    Ok I will have to log that in pass through mode. I have not started changing and adding pids into the black box logging yet. WHat it came with is what I use from the last update

    I am curious as to how many grams /sec its pulling in. WHen you say work on the base, SHould it be very close to what the high octane table ?
    2000 NBM trans am.
    427 Dart ship block,Lme ported Ls7 heads 12.5 compression
    246/262 .730/.712 112+4 low lash solid roller
    Rmvb 4l80 with transbrake, 8" FTI converter
    12 bolt Moser rear end with 4.10 gears

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    did you save that log after it was filtered?
    everything looked herky jerky from TP% to MAP.
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    Not knowing what inputs the pcm is seeing due to the fitting of the th350 I am not sure which base spark table is being used. Hence the "may need work".You generally want a smooth transition from the base spark tables to the main spark tables.
    Hopefully the BBL pid system will be automated soon to make it easier.
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    Post your Options.txt file... we'll edit it so to include DYNCYLAIR_DMA.

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    Joe the attachments manager keeps saying invalid file. I am looking in v8.1 Is this correct?
    2000 NBM trans am.
    427 Dart ship block,Lme ported Ls7 heads 12.5 compression
    246/262 .730/.712 112+4 low lash solid roller
    Rmvb 4l80 with transbrake, 8" FTI converter
    12 bolt Moser rear end with 4.10 gears

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    did you save that log after it was filtered?
    everything looked herky jerky from TP% to MAP.
    I have not filtered anything
    2000 NBM trans am.
    427 Dart ship block,Lme ported Ls7 heads 12.5 compression
    246/262 .730/.712 112+4 low lash solid roller
    Rmvb 4l80 with transbrake, 8" FTI converter
    12 bolt Moser rear end with 4.10 gears

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