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    Hello Everyone,

    I am curious how much the Auto Tune corrects per flash?

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    Depends on the length of the logged data, and how much it was off.

    There is no specific answer for this. The algorithms work the BEN factors out to be 1.0.

    Search and read what a BEN is. Read the AutoVE tutorial, especially the one for Craig Moates RoadRunner.

    Post some more detailed questions. Too vauge with these "how much does it fix per flash" questions.

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    Some people can get their VE corrected in one 20 minute drive....

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    LOL, I've gotten it down to one 19 minute drive.

    Thanks for the replies. I ask because my buddy and I have begun tuning the new motor and we were just curious what percentage of correction it does,

    I have worked with other softwares that you can adjust the percentage rate of change per flash.

    I will check out the Moates article.

    Thanks,
    Glenn

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Some people can get their VE corrected in one 20 minute drive....
    I wish I could get it that quickly on the road. While there is a few small hills around here they are no where near big or consistant enough to get any reliable data from. That and a lack of available injector data has had me chasing my tail for ages with my last round of mods. (Anyone got any accurate voltage offset tables etc for 60lb siemens deka injectors?)
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    Sorry UTE I don't. What is your thought behind the voltage offset table?

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    There is just some strange anomolies in the BEN data collected, especially with small intake temperature variations. IFR has been set to fuel pressure(logged) so should be accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bar View Post
    Sorry UTE I don't. What is your thought behind the voltage offset table?
    Injectors don't open/close exactly when electrically commanded... with bigger injectors this gets worse... the voltage offset tables may be used to minimize this... it involves trial and error, and viewing the injector voltage and current on a scope helps (the waveforms have dips where the pintle physically moves... the attached scope capture is from my stock 28 lb/hr injectors).
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecar View Post
    Injectors don't open/close exactly when electrically commanded... with bigger injectors this gets worse... the voltage offset tables may be used to minimize this... it involves trial and error, and viewing the injector voltage and current on a scope helps (the waveforms have dips where the pintle physically moves... the attached scope capture is from my stock 28 lb/hr injectors).
    Good post Joe.
    A customer of mine(day job) was just in who happens to have an injector waveform analyser I can borrow. I will be able to sort out the offsets for normal operating voltages and try & work through some varying manifold pressures. I will post this info up when I have it.
    How did the results from the scope measure up to the standard settings?
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    joe, nice info. I am with you on the offset table. I have used it to help bring AFR in line with my 60lbs mototrons and the two pumps in the tank I am running.

    I need to work out a slight hesitation on tip in though. I thought about building a map to monitor Inj voltage between RPM and MAP. Than I thought I would use this info to adjust how much I have offset the voltage. I also thought about adding a point to the right of the decimal point in the offset table to adjust smaller amounts.

    Am I going in the right direction?

    Thanks,
    glenn

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