A little surprise

[L31Sleeper]

Unfortunately ones man's rock is another man's gold. We see both sides of the fence all the time, Diesel guys telling us to forget all the gas vehicles and the gas guys telling us to forget the oil burners.
There is a tuning market for nearly everything, the decision we have to make is to assess if it's worth our time to add support for certain controllers. Bosch (to us) is way harder to deal with than the good old Delphi ECM's, so there will have to be a reasonable amount of interest in this to have us commit to making it happen. Having said that, I have been really surprised at the amount of ECM reads so far, especially from our Australian customers.

Totally understandable. I'm an equal opportunity profiteer, DSP 5 one day and COS 5 the next.
So I wouldn't say help one and forget the other, I think this would help secure the Sport Compact,
Camaro and Cadillac markets.

[andrewjamesbond1]

Hey Ross, any update on the reads? Didn't know if you could say if you were going to try to support "x" ECMs or not

[JCA]

Good work ross, 15mins to read the bosch ecm is good i use hpt and it takes like 27mins I have a lot of tunes that have been read with hpt are they of any use i will start reading as many as poss with v2 and send them thu. regards Jason

[GMPX]

We are still working on Cummins, the Bosch ECM won't be considered until that task is complete. I haven't really looked over the files we have yet, but thanks to everyone for sending them in.

[L31Sleeper]

Would this include the New V6 Camaro ?

[L31Sleeper]

Bump !!!!!

[andrewjamesbond1]

I can't wait! Baby V6's getting ripped!

[GMPX]

But no promises or time frames, we have our 2011 support map already full, these weren't even on it a few weeks ago

Above is a quote from a post I made in March. Nothing has changed on this stance, with the exception that it looks like part of our 2012 will be consumed with other projects.

Given the conjecture on the forum over the last couple of weeks about wanting a defined answer on what we will and won't support, it's probably best to say that it's not looking like we will pursue these Bosch ECM's in 2011. Pushing development into 2012 is doubtful too given the ECM is being replaced as GM move to Flex Fuel on the engines currently supported by the Bosch ECM (these ECM's can't do E85).
We estimate it would take at least 3 months solid work to understand these systems and map them out, that's assuming all goes well. Our development experience with Bosch ECM's on the Duramax left a bad taste so we know nothing will go smoothly. Based on this and the not so overwhelming further request for support (it takes more the 20 people to shout yes please!), consider this on an indefinite hiatus for the moment. We are sorry for this as I know there is a number of people who were looking forward to the possibility of tuning these ECM's with EFILive.

There is some software out of Europe for tuning these Bosch systems, we may continue to develop the flashing process for the E55, E69 & E77 so Autocal could be used on the Bosch ECM's, we've had a few requests just for that function, no editing, just a method of remote flashing.

Cheers,
Ross

[L31Sleeper]

There is some software out of Europe for tuning these Bosch systems, we may continue to develop the flashing process for the E55, E69 & E77 so Autocal could be used on the Bosch ECM's, we've had a few requests just for that function, no editing, just a method of remote flashing.

Cheers,
Ross

Just wondering, How would this be useful ??

Thanx
-Justin

[GMPX]

There seems to be a number of people out there who can tune these Bosch ECM's using one of the various tuning packages for them (from the US or Europe) or just a simple Hex editor.
Suppose you develop a mail order tune for an E77 ECM, you can then use Autocal to deliver the tunes to customers. Autocal doesn't need to understand the maps in the ECM, it just flashes the file in. So in that sense, they don't need EFILive at all apart from using Autocal to deliver a tune.