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    Once you guys explained it..it seems so obvious.

    Thanks for explaining and for the CALC PIDS..
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    In the calc_pids.txt attached to post#59 you may have noticed that I multiplied {SAE.MAP.kPa} by 1000... this allows CALC.VE_Table.VEpcm to be in grams instead of milligrams...

    actually VE units map to g*K/kPa.
    Last edited by joecar; March 14th, 2010 at 02:17 PM.

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    I applied this to some of my log files, I didn't have DYNAIRTMP logged, so I changed the calc pid to use IAT instead...

    this is what it produces, VE_Table looks pretty close...

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    Hows it looking?(CALC VE).
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    I updated the calc_pid.txt file... see attached.

    Changes:
    - in equation for VEpcm, multiplied MAP.kPa by1000.
    - changed VEpcm units to VE units (i.e. g*K/kPa).
    - changed VEpcm range from 0-3000 to 0-3.
    - changed LTFTBEN % range from 0-2 to 0.5-1.5 for more resolution.
    - removed extra set of parenthesis from around displacement multiplication.

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    Would changing the high for the calc_VE to something like 110 be O.K. for boosted applications? I'm trying to understand the calc_pids boundaries in general. The only hurdle I see in this is my VE table isnt in %VE but grams/cyl. I think I need to make a BEN table to multiply my stock table with OR convert my table to %, find the difference, and go from there? Either way, I work at 3AM and will hopefully log the truck when I get home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TunasTwins View Post
    Would changing the high for the calc_VE to something like 110 be O.K. for boosted applications? I'm trying to understand the calc_pids boundaries in general. The only hurdle I see in this is my VE table isnt in %VE but grams/cyl. I think I need to make a BEN table to multiply my stock table with OR convert my table to %, find the difference, and go from there?
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    Yes, that's the gauge/chart high tickmark display mark, it doesn't affect the calculation.

    High = highest tickmark on gauge/chart,
    Low = lowest tickmark
    Fmt = how many decimal places

    Try the VE_Table with VE units in the calc_pids.txt I posted in post #65... not g/cyl but g*K/kPa (same as B0101).

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    The calc_ve PID still doesn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    The calc_ve PID still doesn't work. :sad:
    Huh, what happens...?

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    Mr. Prick, is it a displacement issue? (all zero's), and it just won't validate?

    Remember, we have two VE type PIDS. The 'newer' one that utilizes DYNAIRTMP is under Tuning..
    Last edited by WeathermanShawn; March 14th, 2010 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Additional Comments..
    2002 Black Camaro Z-28 M6 Hardtop 11.0:1CR 425HP/410TQ SAE (400TQ@3500RPM)
    200cc Heads, 228/232 110+2 Cam, 1 3/4" LT's w/catts, GMMG, Koni Shocks, Hotchkis Springs, 35/21 Sways, 17" ZR1's, 3.90 Gears Roadrunner PCM LM-2 Serial Wideband
    EFILive Closed-Loop MAF/SD Hybrid Tune..


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