Info on New LML engines for 2011

[Cougar281]

Opening up ECM's is not something we would consider as the solution for our customers, if that is what you want to do then send an ECM over to one of the European companies and see what they come up with.

Sorry, what I meant was you guys open it up and read it (or get the bin from TIS2WEB) and add that binary to the software to allow for flashing support. Isn't that more or less how you support the A40 TCM?

And don't worry, you won't find me buying anything newer than an 07 Classic

[GMPX]

Sorry, what I meant was you guys open it up and read it (or get the bin from TIS2WEB) and add that binary to the software to allow for flashing support.

I think there would be legal issues distributing GM's files, there is other problems associated with that process because TIS2WEB only keeps the latest files, if ever there is an older truck that we never saw a specific segment for then that truck can't be tuned unless it goes to the dealer to get the same update. I think Paul would possibly punch me in the nose if I suggested we need to monitor TIS every day for new updates for every possible LML ECM segment out there and then distribute the results in the software. For the moment GM have won, if you want to let them know, buy a 2011 FORD or Dodge and send GM a letter explaining why.

Isn't that more or less how you support the A40 TCM?

No, the A40 allows reading, just at a very slow rate. The LML is the first ECM to block reading.

[bballer182]

Can you imagine how every Duramax tuner would feel about tuning the LML if it meant pulling the ECM out of the truck, pulling it apart, attaching some wires to the PCB and flashing.......for EVERY tune change. Who would bother when the risk of damaging the ECM is very high and they cannot be obtained from GM as spares.
Whilst we understand that many of our Diesel customers might not be happy to hear all this, it's not 'our' fault GM chose this new controller for the LML.

I absolutely agree, I wouldn't consider that a solution either, and that wasn't a jab BTW. I'm just saying nothing is in-hackable, it's just not cost effective for you guys to spend the time and money to figure it out. Who knows you'd probably have to hire rain man and the biggest super computer to do it all.

And don't worry, you won't find me buying anything newer than an 07 Classic

I'm with ya there man! screw the LMM, and LML. The LBZ is the easiest thing for me to tune and work with.

[DURAtotheMAX]

does anyone know what controller Ford is using on the 6.7 powerstroke? IIRC the injection system itself as a whole is basically identical to the LML...same pump, injectors, etc...

But obviously the controller is different?

If its possible to take the ECM apart and change 'something' in the ECM to 'unlock' it (so it could be flashed/read normally with the V2), I wonder if you guys could do that based on a Core exchange program?

IE, you send in your stock LML ECM, pay a couple hundred bucks or something for the 'unlocking/modding service', and then EFILive sends back an ECM thats been taken apart and "unlocked" and can now be flashed normally like the LB7-LMM ECM's????

[8100 Power]

Bullydog cracked the LML... Along with the new Ford.

[GMPX]

IE, you send in your stock LML ECM, pay a couple hundred bucks or something for the 'unlocking/modding service', and then EFILive sends back an ECM thats been taken apart and "unlocked" and can now be flashed normally like the LB7-LMM ECM's????

No chance of that happening.

Bullydog cracked the LML... Along with the new Ford.

Thing is, flashing them is NOT the problem, reading them is.

[8100 Power]

No chance of that happening.


Thing is, flashing them is NOT the problem, reading them is.

Isn't that the problem with the Cummins also? The Smarty doesn't actually read the stock file either I don't believe. Just loads a matching stock file once you choose to return to stock.

[GMPX]

Isn't that the problem with the Cummins also?

We haven't found that to be an issue, they can be read out, Smarty might choose not to read it to save time, or to ensure their tune is not applied over another hand held tuner.

[turbo_bu]

Bullydog cracked the LML... Along with the new Ford.

Guessing that they had to do a pull apart to get the base file out? Thus, they have "cracked" the LML.

Still wondering, if as others had said, that if someone went out and somehow "found" a base tune and sent it to EFI Live, that it would then be supported. All be it with the large ASSUMPTION, that you needed to verify which OS was in there before you simply went off and flashed it.

Can a Tech II tell a guy which OS and cals are in the LML so he could then check and compare to what he wanted to flash in using EFI Live?

[8100 Power]

Guessing that they had to do a pull apart to get the base file out? Thus, they have "cracked" the LML.

Still wondering, if as others had said, that if someone went out and somehow "found" a base tune and sent it to EFI Live, that it would then be supported. All be it with the large ASSUMPTION, that you needed to verify which OS was in there before you simply went off and flashed it.

Can a Tech II tell a guy which OS and cals are in the LML so he could then check and compare to what he wanted to flash in using EFI Live?

I don't know the details how they did it. The "cracked" term is what I used. I probably could of use a more efficient term I guess? Hacked, Reverse Engineered, etc...

For your other points, I sure just hope something is possible.