Info on New LML engines for 2011

[turbo_bu]

It sounds like flashing is not the problem. That was why I was hoping that if someone were to go through the trouble to get the necessary file(s) / and / or cal's, that it would then be possible for EFI Live to support it as well.

Guess we will have to wait and see what others are doing on this new front as well.

[GMPX]

That was why I was hoping that if someone were to go through the trouble to get the necessary file(s) / and / or cal's,

Distributing the files is in violation of the on-line TIS website agreement, here's what it says (edited for size).

Prohibited Activities. You agree not to:
Reproduce, copy, modify, adapt, distribute, transmit, transfer, republish, compile or decompile, reverse engineer, distribute, transmit, display, remove or delete the GM Intellectual Property or the content and information provided by GM, its third party licensors and/or other users of ACDelco TDS;

[rcr1978]

So legally the only way to tune our trucks is to read the calibration out of the ecm? That sucks but I guess it makes sense once we buy the truck its our property and we can do what we want and GM's property is there's, but would'nt it be considered your property once its on your computer since afterall you paid to use their TIS web service and your not modifying there property cause your property is on your computer

[joecar]

It's still their property regardless...

[DURAtotheMAX]

It seems the new ford 6.7's also use an EDC17...hmmm...I wonder how similar it is to the LML EDC17?

[plutonium233]

Finally get to buy a Duramax, and now this mess... As far as tuning is concerned I've got a $60K paperweight. GM does it again...

[DURAtotheMAX]

Finally get to buy a Duramax, and now this mess... As far as tuning is concerned I've got a $60K paperweight. GM does it again...

Yeah life sucks doesnt it. Your truck is a piece of crap, I would be feeling the same way right now if I were you.







Really??? Get over it. You have a 400hp fully-warrantied badass truck with a chassis/brakes/frame/etc that is 10x better and more advanced than the 2001-2010 trucks. Why is it THAT big a deal that you are going to have to wait a couple months for tuning? Its not like the 2011 LML's are "slow" by any stretch. When tuning does come out and you blow it up, then you'll REALLY have a $60k paper weight because if EFILive goes anywhere near that ECM your warranty will be void faster than you can say oops.

"GM does it again". WTH do you mean GM does it again? Its GM's fault you cant tune the truck up and ask it to do something it wasnt designed to do in the first place?!!???!!???? With all the crapstorm of warranty fraud out their today (from idiots blowing their truck up and then making GM pay for it), the whole point was for them to make the ECM as difficult to crack as possible. Its in their best interest to lock the ECM up tightly. If you cant understand that/why they did that and look at it from GM's point of view than you're ridiculous.

If you want a hotrod/toy go buy a cheap beat-up regular cab LB7 or LLY and build that up.

ben

[ScarabEpic22]

Hmmm, regular cab short bed LLY or LBZ might be nice to have...add a little turbo upgrade, injectors, suspension stuff, and of course EFILive tuning and have a sweet tow truck plus a sleeper DD. Now wheres that $$$ everyone owes me? haha jk

[schwoch1]

Yeah life sucks doesnt it. Your truck is a piece of crap, I would be feeling the same way right now if I were you.







Really??? Get over it. You have a 400hp fully-warrantied badass truck with a chassis/brakes/frame/etc that is 10x better and more advanced than the 2001-2010 trucks. Why is it THAT big a deal that you are going to have to wait a couple months for tuning? Its not like the 2011 LML's are "slow" by any stretch. When tuning does come out and you blow it up, then you'll REALLY have a $60k paper weight because if EFILive goes anywhere near that ECM your warranty will be void faster than you can say oops.

"GM does it again". WTH do you mean GM does it again? Its GM's fault you cant tune the truck up and ask it to do something it wasnt designed to do in the first place?!!???!!???? With all the crapstorm of warranty fraud out their today (from idiots blowing their truck up and then making GM pay for it), the whole point was for them to make the ECM as difficult to crack as possible. Its in their best interest to lock the ECM up tightly. If you cant understand that/why they did that and look at it from GM's point of view than you're ridiculous.

If you want a hotrod/toy go buy a cheap beat-up regular cab LB7 or LLY and build that up.

ben

I 100% agree with you. Same shit happens with the Vette and Camaro guys..... Tune it, then blow it up and it is GM's fault?????? I think not. I have one customer who is complaining that he can't get his new LML tuned because he is 'convinced' that his DPF is losing him at least 5 MPG. I asked him where he thinks all 400 HP in his truck come from (which he drives like he stole it), thin air!!!!???? You want HP, it has to come from somewhere!!!

Oh well, off my soapbox....

Mike

[plutonium233]

Guys... really? I didn't mean to piss you all off or anything. I'm not trying to get a truck warrantied for things that happened due to performance mods. I'm not saying the truck sucks or it's slow. In fact, I was mostly being sarcastic BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MY LUCK ALWAYS SEEMS TO GO. I know what GM did and why they did it. It's not the end of the world. Honestly, It really doesn't matter that much because if I break it, I am going to pay for it; always have, always will (unless it is a legitimate warranty item). Please don't bash me for that. It pisses me off to no end to hear this bull crap, just as it does you. Ben, please understand that I don't think like that. If all I was after was performance, I would either build it or buy something that was meant to do it. I know VERY WELL what it takes to get performance as well as the risks. Again, I appologize for pissing you off since I didn't explain that beforehand.