Page 53 of 75 FirstFirst ... 343515253545563 ... LastLast
Results 521 to 530 of 741

Thread: Calc.VET: correcting MAF and calculating VE (in single log)

  1. #521
    Junior Member ecir45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    34

    Default

    First time tuner here. Used calc_pids from first post. All went well except CALC.VEN showed invalid.

    More info showed:

    Calculated VE, not corrected {CALC.VEN}
    Expression:
    % = {SAE.MAF.gps}*{CALC.DAT.K}/{SAE.MAP.kPa}/{SAE.RPM}*3445.2/displacement()
    is NOT valid because:
    Required parameter {CALC.DAT.K}, at position 27 is not selected.
    PID value cannot be determined because
    the following error would occur:
    Expression not valid: Required parameter {CALC.DAT.K}, at position 27 is not selected.
    Calculated VE, not corrected {CALC.VEN}
    Expression:
    g*K/kPa = {SAE.MAF.gps}*{CALC.DAT.K}/{SAE.MAP.kPa}/{SAE.RPM}*15
    is NOT valid because:
    PID value cannot be determined because
    the following error would occur:
    Expression not compiled

    Added CALC.DAT pid to make the CALC.VEN valid.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	pid.PNG 
Views:	524 
Size:	28.3 KB 
ID:	16508

    My OS is 12212156. Using Innovate LC-2 serial wideband.

    Did I use the right calc_pid text file.
    '92 K1500 Blazer, L31, NV3500, TPI, 14 bolt 3.42, 0411, EFI Live
    '99 SCSB Stepside Silverado, 5.3, 4L60e, 10 bolt 3.42, 0411, EFI Live

  2. #522
    Lifetime Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    742

    Default

    You've selected ECT in Metric and IAT in Imperial... they need to be on the same scale. Change IAT to Metric and add CALC.DAT back to the list (it's greyed out on your list). See if that helps. Also select CALC.DAT in Metric

  3. #523
    Junior Member ecir45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    34

    Default

    had CALC.DAT not selected to show in pic above that it makes CALC.VEN invalid.

    So CALC.DAT is needed but not shown in pid pic in first post?
    '92 K1500 Blazer, L31, NV3500, TPI, 14 bolt 3.42, 0411, EFI Live
    '99 SCSB Stepside Silverado, 5.3, 4L60e, 10 bolt 3.42, 0411, EFI Live

  4. #524
    Lifetime Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    742

    Default

    CALC.DAT is shown in your list but the little icon is greyed out... so it's not selected.

  5. #525
    Joe (Moderator) joecar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Posts
    28,400

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ecir45 View Post
    ...
    So CALC.DAT is needed but not shown in pid pic in first post?
    Ok, I added a comment to post #1 to include CALC.DAT.

  6. #526
    Joe (Moderator) joecar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Posts
    28,400

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ecir45 View Post
    First time tuner here. Used calc_pids from first post. All went well except CALC.VEN showed invalid.

    More info showed:

    Calculated VE, not corrected {CALC.VEN}
    Expression:
    % = {SAE.MAF.gps}*{CALC.DAT.K}/{SAE.MAP.kPa}/{SAE.RPM}*3445.2/displacement()
    is NOT valid because:
    Required parameter {CALC.DAT.K}, at position 27 is not selected.
    PID value cannot be determined because
    the following error would occur:
    Expression not valid: Required parameter {CALC.DAT.K}, at position 27 is not selected.
    Calculated VE, not corrected {CALC.VEN}
    Expression:
    g*K/kPa = {SAE.MAF.gps}*{CALC.DAT.K}/{SAE.MAP.kPa}/{SAE.RPM}*15
    is NOT valid because:
    PID value cannot be determined because
    the following error would occur:
    Expression not compiled

    Added CALC.DAT pid to make the CALC.VEN valid.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	pid.PNG 
Views:	524 
Size:	28.3 KB 
ID:	16508

    My OS is 12212156. Using Innovate LC-2 serial wideband.

    Did I use the right calc_pid text file.
    More Info shows a clue as to what the problem may be.

    I now added a comment to post #1 to include CALC.DAT.

  7. #527
    Junior Member ecir45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    34

    Default

    hopefully this will help when you get to the pdf. Thanks

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	CALCVET.png 
Views:	10442 
Size:	18.2 KB 
ID:	16509
    '92 K1500 Blazer, L31, NV3500, TPI, 14 bolt 3.42, 0411, EFI Live
    '99 SCSB Stepside Silverado, 5.3, 4L60e, 10 bolt 3.42, 0411, EFI Live

  8. #528
    Joe (Moderator) joecar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Posts
    28,400

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ecir45 View Post
    hopefully this will help when you get to the pdf. Thanks

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	CALCVET.png 
Views:	10442 
Size:	18.2 KB 
ID:	16509
    I pasted your pic into post #1 to replace the original pic, thanks

  9. #529
    Junior Member ecir45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    34

    Default

    Would there be any benefit from running Calc.MAFT after using Calc.VET or is Calc.VET good enough at getting the VE table right. The only advantage possibly I can see is by using Calc.MAFT you could see how far you are off in the VE table in % instead of a calculation.

    Thinking out the box since I have only done one Calc.VET so far and think my MAF is spot on but think VE Table probably needs some refining.
    '92 K1500 Blazer, L31, NV3500, TPI, 14 bolt 3.42, 0411, EFI Live
    '99 SCSB Stepside Silverado, 5.3, 4L60e, 10 bolt 3.42, 0411, EFI Live

  10. #530
    Lifetime Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    702

    Default

    You could (and probably should) run all the different airmass estimators at the same time. This way you can track if/when any calibration or parts are starting to diverge from each other. Also, it can drive you insane, because they will never be perfect, and you'll just end chasing your tail forever. Just a warning

Page 53 of 75 FirstFirst ... 343515253545563 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Please explain table A0007 TPS VE TABLE cos5
    By WHYTRYZ06 in forum General (Petrol, Gas, Ethanol)
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: March 18th, 2008, 06:26 PM
  2. OLFA table vs. Custom OS A0008 table
    By 1bar in forum General (Petrol, Gas, Ethanol)
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: January 6th, 2007, 06:25 AM
  3. Table Names vs Table Number
    By lplott in forum Custom Operating Systems
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: May 17th, 2006, 05:14 AM
  4. Main VE Table ?, Logged data vs VE Table
    By dbaxter_ss in forum Tips and tricks
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: December 26th, 2004, 03:36 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •