okay so I had my 3601 table set to 9.71 while i was attempting to run the auto ve, if I switch it over to 14.7 while running e85 won't the computer lean the motor way out? I typically log everything in lambda and cross reference it to an e85 chart to keep things more simple. why do you think my wideband isn't working? right now i'm running with no 02 sensors just an open loop tune with MAF support. I'm trying to dial in my VE table so I can run with no MAF and have more control over fueling. The way its setup now when I make a change to the VE table the AFR never changes, the MAF must be doing all the talking.