Help with LC-1

[Chevy366]

I was thinking the same thing while I got my ass kicked by an LC-1

The tutorial is about as accurate an install you can get. IF you followed the tutorial to a T and it still don't work, then I would suspect a faulty chingaso somewhere.

So I have joined a elite club then ?
Let me ask it like this then , do the green and white wires need to be connected for a free air calibration to occur ?

[highperf]

Yes ground them. Ground'em all ground the whole da** lot of'em

Then give it a try

Jim

[Chevy366]

Well found out some things out , the black calibration wire should have a pluse of 0 to 5v , mine don't , so with out the calibration working the LC-1 is useless .
I also learned that if the brown or yellow wire touch anything the LC-1 dies .

[Doc]

Do you have a serial to usb converter? If so which brand? Furthermore, did you power up the LC-1 controller without the sensor connected at first? Essentially forcing a heater calibration, that needs to take place prior to the free air cal. If I misunderstood you and you did try to monitor the start up / warm up / heater / free air cals via the serial output (with serial to usb conveter- as most laptops today only have usb) as viewed in LogWorks on your laptop then I apologize. When is Innovate going to upgrade the old serial out to usb anyways? At any rate, how are you coming along?

[Chevy366]

Do you have a serial to usb converter? If so which brand? Furthermore, did you power up the LC-1 controller without the sensor connected at first? Essentially forcing a heater calibration, that needs to take place prior to the free air cal. If I misunderstood you and you did try to monitor the start up / warm up / heater / free air cals via the serial output (with serial to usb conveter- as most laptops today only have usb) as viewed in LogWorks on your laptop then I apologize. When is Innovate going to upgrade the old serial out to usb anyways? At any rate, how are you coming along?

Yes to USB to serial converter , Radio Shack version .
Yes powered LC-1 without sensor attached .
No did not try to monitor heater, free air calibration , with laptop .
At this point I have given up , without calibrations the unit is useless , so going to contact Innovate and see what they say .
I did check the ground point I selected it is fine , I did hook up to laptop and got readings both with LogWorks and EFILive but where way off due to not being able to calibrate .
Again the only way I can get any response from the calibration process from the LC-1 is to remove the White unit or system ground , not suppose to have to do that , I checked the Black calibration wire with a Ohm meter and it reads 0.083 most volts shown .
I have checked the LED and it stil functions correctly , and so does the switch .
Oh and thanks for asking how it is going .

[highperf]

Yes to USB to serial converter , Radio Shack version .
Yes powered LC-1 without sensor attached .
No did not try to monitor heater, free air calibration , with laptop .
At this point I have given up , without calibrations the unit is useless , so going to contact Innovate and see what they say .
I did check the ground point I selected it is fine , I did hook up to laptop and got readings both with LogWorks and EFILive but where way off due to not being able to calibrate .
Again the only way I can get any response from the calibration process from the LC-1 is to remove the White unit or system ground , not suppose to have to do that , I checked the Black calibration wire with a Ohm meter and it reads 0.083 most volts shown .
I have checked the LED and it stil functions correctly , and so does the switch .
Oh and thanks for asking how it is going .

tunedbyGM, At this point you may just want to contact Innovate. Try the Innovate forum. If they even think you have a faulty unit they'll you have send it in they will replace it. quicker than spit. Just tell them at this point you just can't trust it.

Jim

[joecar]

Measure the voltage between the LC-1 red and blue wires, make sure it is better than 12V.

[Chevy366]

tunedbyGM, At this point you may just want to contact Innovate. Try the Innovate forum. If they even think you have a faulty unit they'll you have send it in they will replace it. quicker than spit. Just tell them at this point you just can't trust it.

Jim

I called and spoke with Felipe , I belive his name was , and he walked me through the calibration process , ascertained that the LC-1 was bad , RMA process started .
When doing calibration it did the heater , then would not do free air , kept flashing 20.9 then cailbrating on and off , Felipe thouhgt maybe it was because the black wire was grounded but it was not , said he had not seen this behavor before and wanted to RMA it .
Man if I had known about the LogWorks being able to watch the calibration process it would have made things alot easier . Thanks "Doc" , Felipe had me do it that way .
I wish Innovate would have included that little tid bit of info in their Quick Start Guide (hint , hint ) !

[highperf]

I called and spoke with Felipe , I belive his name was , and he walked me through the calibration process , ascertained that the LC-1 was bad , RMA process started .
When doing calibration it did the heater , then would not do free air , kept flashing 20.9 then cailbrating on and off , Felipe thouhgt maybe it was because the black wire was grounded but it was not , said he had not seen this behavor before and wanted to RMA it .
Man if I had known about the LogWorks being able to watch the calibration process it would have made things alot easier . Thanks "Doc" , Felipe had me do it that way .
I wish Innovate would have included that little tid bit of info in their Quick Start Guide (hint , hint ) !

Yeah, Sorry I didn't catch that and suggest it. I find the Logworks software very helpfull. I have had my LC-1's for some time and the Logworks that was delivered with my version of LC-1's actually didn't work with them. I got a non GA copy from Klaus and got by with that.

Once you get over this hurdle you'll love them.

Jim

[Chevy366]

Yeah, Sorry I didn't catch that and suggest it. I find the Logworks software very helpfull. I have had my LC-1's for some time and the Logworks that was delivered with my version of LC-1's actually didn't work with them. I got a non GA copy from Klaus and got by with that.

Once you get over this hurdle you'll love them.

Jim

Yeah , knowledge is power , and I have more now than before .
LogWorks is the way to calibrate the LC-1 .
From what I have seen with EFILive and a LC-1 this is a great way to tune , AutoVE and tune away .

Thanks everyone for the help !