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    THe external PIDs should have a dash for the controller type.
    i.e.
    -,TEMP1
    instead of just
    TEMP1

    When you save the PID selections from the BB logging setup window it should create the Options.txt file correctly with the dashes.

    Make sure you are using the latest V8.1 release because an older version of the software had a problem that caused it to leave off the dash.

    The latest version V8.1.2 is available here:
    http://www.efilive.com/index.php?opt...=48&Itemid=133

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacky View Post
    THe external PIDs should have a dash for the controller type.
    i.e.
    -,TEMP1
    instead of just
    TEMP1

    When you save the PID selections from the BB logging setup window it should create the Options.txt file correctly with the dashes.

    Make sure you are using the latest V8.1 release because an older version of the software had a problem that caused it to leave off the dash.

    The latest version V8.1.2 is available here:
    http://www.efilive.com/index.php?opt...=48&Itemid=133

    Regards
    Paul
    I went ahead and deleted both of the temp PID's and then saved. I then reselected them and saved it again - Here's what I came up with:
    Quote Originally Posted by options.txt

    ; __________________________________________________ _______________________
    ; (LBZ|Auto)
    *PSL_20
    ;
    ;Node PID Custom (Cap:Units:Prec:Fact:Offs:Inv) Alarm (min:max:style:time*10ms:hold*sec)
    ;---- ---------------- ----------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------
    ECM, LOAD_PCT
    ECM, EGR_PCT
    ECM, EGRCMD
    ECM, FUELRCALC
    ECM, EQ_RAT
    ECM, VPWR
    ECM, MAIN1Q_M
    ECM, FRPDES, :psi:0:1450.376953:0.000000:N
    ECM, FRP_C, :psi:0:1450.376953:0.000000:N
    ECM, MNINJTIM
    ECM, MAIN1T_M
    TCM, TP_A
    TCM, RPM
    ECM, TCVDES
    ECM, TCVPOS
    ECM, BOOST2_M, :psi:1:0.145038:0.000000:N
    ECM, ECT, :°F:0:1.800000:32.000000:N
    ECM, ENGTRQREF_M, :ftlb:1:0.737600:0.000000:N
    ECM, IAT, :°F:0:1.800000:32.000000:N
    TCM, TIS
    TCM, TOS
    TCM, TCCDC
    TCM, TCCSLIP
    TCM, GEAR
    TCM, SELGEAR
    TCM, CMDGEAR
    TCM, TFT, :°F:0:1.800000:32.000000:N
    TCM, REQTRQR, :ftlb:1:0.737600:0.000000:N
    ECM, ENGOILP, :psi:1:0.145038:0.000000:N
    ECM, VSS, :mph:0:0.621371:0.000000:N
    ECM, MAP2, :psi:1:0.145038:0.000000:N
    ECM, MAP, :psi:1:0.145038:0.000000:N
    ECM, WIFV
    TCM, TSTATE07
    , TEMP2
    , TEMP1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasondt2001 View Post
    I went ahead and deleted both of the temp PID's and then saved. I then reselected them and saved it again - Here's what I came up with:
    , TEMP2
    , TEMP1
    Are you sure you're not using an older version of the software?
    Check the version you are using on the very first screen when EFILive Scan and Tune is first started. It should show V8.1.2 Build 55 or higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacky View Post
    THe external PIDs should have a dash for the controller type.
    i.e.
    -,TEMP1
    instead of just
    TEMP1

    When you save the PID selections from the BB logging setup window it should create the Options.txt file correctly with the dashes.

    Make sure you are using the latest V8.1 release because an older version of the software had a problem that caused it to leave off the dash.

    The latest version V8.1.2 is available here:
    http://www.efilive.com/index.php?opt...=48&Itemid=133

    Regards
    Paul
    Paul,

    I can't verify if the LB7 external PID works.
    I noticed that when saving the file in S/T. PCM is added for the node not the - and a description for the PID is added on the LB7. The LMM and LBZ is missing that information when setting up the Custom settings to use the two Temp PIDs.
    The Options txt file has the - added for the LB7 and LLY when saving S/T. Could the problem be that the set-up information for the LMM and LBZ in custom properties is missing. If that is added I think it would work.

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    Hi guys, EFILive BBL etc: fabulous capability taking shape there.

    PID editor is right out there! It was all kinda hard before this great tool!

    A few issues come to light today as I wade through the learning curve of using build 55 capabilties etc.

    These may have been reported already and already be on the to do list, so I will keep it short:

    A/. For BBL display or log pids, V2 Selects both WB02 sensors on BBL. i.e. in options select one sensor, on scan/log two are presented. Seems that they always use 3 lines each too. Could do with just Lambda.

    B/. Some items that are selected, are in log, do not appear on V2 BBL screen.

    C/. Some items that are selected, are not in log, do not appear on V2 BBL screen - examples:

    TCM VSS PID when selected has gone missing from V2 and log....it worked before.

    PID's SCALCORVE_M & it uncorrected partner while listed in the FS V2 PID list, do not appear on the V2 or log.

    Probably a few others to come.... :0

    D/. Selecting Lambda in Flashscan and Autocal Device Settings "F7" sees EQR on the V2. (can be changed in V2 options.)

    E/. De-selecting "Auto Select all digital PID's", turns all digital off. (i.e.needs 0,1,2 option ?)

    F/. Selecting 1 Wideband sets in the editor or in the V2 selects both WB PIDs. Techedge WB. (see also A....I may be stuttering.... )

    G/. In FS/AC PID selections, ECM PID descriptions come and go, and descriptions get out of order.

    H/. Sometimes V2 will notify writing log file, but nothing ends up on the SD card.



    Back to the grind.....

    Cheers, Ian

    PS - For those of us with 64k row limits in XL, it would be good when exporting large logs if they produce a seperate file (auto) for every 64k rows or so. Not the end of the world of course.

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    Hi Ian,

    Thanks for the detailed write up. It is taking me a while to go through and investigate the points you raised. I'll post my results/updates in this thread. Feel free to post a reminder if I have not posted by end of next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacky View Post
    Hi Ian,

    Thanks for the detailed write up. It is taking me a while to go through and investigate the points you raised. I'll post my results/updates in this thread. Feel free to post a reminder if I have not posted by end of next week.

    Regards
    Paul
    No worries Paul. Please let me know if you know need more details.

    Also came across another one today:

    I have EQ_RAT and AFRATIO_M as selected PID's in BBL. They both appear on the list in the LCD on the V2, but EQ_RAT does not make it into the log.

    Cheers, Ian

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    And another...though am sure this is not a bug, but by design intent, and that is:

    When VSS for example is selected from ECM and also from TCM, only one will "stick" in the Scan and Tune editor.

    Similar if the options.txt is edited to add in what the editor wont, V2 BBL uses the first VSS PID and ignores the second.

    Previously both could be used.

    I can see the editor and the V2 are doing the right thing as two may be selected by accident, and they uses channels, but there are times when both are relevant.

    Maybe an option ?

    Thanksyou!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmh308 View Post
    And another...though am sure this is not a bug, but by design intent, and that is:

    When VSS for example is selected from ECM and also from TCM, only one will "stick" in the Scan and Tune editor.

    Similar if the options.txt is edited to add in what the editor wont, V2 BBL uses the first VSS PID and ignores the second.

    Previously both could be used.

    I can see the editor and the V2 are doing the right thing as two may be selected by accident, and they uses channels, but there are times when both are relevant.

    Maybe an option ?

    Thanksyou!
    By design, PIDs with the same name form different controllers can be selected. however, the BBL firmware in FlashScan V2 is currently set up to emulate the *.efi log file format for the V7 software. That *.efi log file format cannot handle PIDs with the same name from different controllers so only the first one is used, the second one is ignored.

    Once the V8 scan tool softwar eis ready, the FlashScan firmware will be switched over to the V8 style log files which will allow multiple PIDs with the same name.

    I had overlooked the fact that you can still select 2 PIDs with the same name in the BBL setup software. Even though they can't be logged - yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacky View Post
    Hi Ian,

    Thanks for the detailed write up. It is taking me a while to go through and investigate the points you raised. I'll post my results/updates in this thread. Feel free to post a reminder if I have not posted by end of next week.

    Regards
    Paul
    Hi Paul,

    How is this progressing? I noticed that you now have an error message if "duplicate" PIDs are selected.

    But....EQ_RAT appears to be missing from the selection listing in Scan and Tune now, and even if it is listed in Options.txt, it does not log, even though it displays on the V2. Doesnt show up in the PID listing in Scan either.

    Search party needed?

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