Good news for AutoCal people but I cant spend $150 for an AutoCal unit right now, guess Ill be waiting for FlashScan BBF... :(
Good news for AutoCal people but I cant spend $150 for an AutoCal unit right now, guess Ill be waiting for FlashScan BBF... :(
~Erik~
2013 Sonic RS Manual - 1.4L I4T E78, tuned, turbo mods, etc.
2008 TrailBlazer SS 3SS AWD Summit White - LS2 E67/T42, bolt ons, suspension, etc.
2002 Chevy TrailBlazer LT 4X4 Summit White - 4.2L I6 P10, lifted, wheels, etc.
The FlashScan standalone reading/flashing will be running in parallel with the AutoCal firmware/software beta release, so you can still participate with your FlashScan V2. The only downside is that if there is a problem with the beta software or firmware you might have a non-usable V2 until we can fix the problem.
Regards
Paul
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Paul is pointing out that you can still beta test BBF using your V2.The FlashScan standalone reading/flashing will be running in parallel with the AutoCal firmware/software beta release, so you can still participate with your FlashScan V2. The only downside is that if there is a problem with the beta software or firmware you might have a non-usable V2 until we can fix the problem.
Thanks for the explanation Paul .
I saw that, but it also states, kind of at your own risk, and not on a production unit, because it may break something, and you might have to wait for a fix .
Believe me I am ecstatic about the possibilities of SF , will make life so much easier .
Just remember American's are in bad shape right now , we don't have all the spendable cash we use to have .
2005 1500 HD , Custom OS3 SD tune .
2006 Trailblazer
Dinosaurs and Plants gave their lives so that we may drive , long live fossil fuel .
You need to read the definition of "beta test". Being in a beta test is about taking a risk in trade for some reward. In this case mostly getting an early chance to play with something. I've gotten T-Shirts, mugs, a rear-view mirror for my monitor, and a Flashscan for being a beta tester. I've also lost everything on my hard drive more than once and the last hours edits of source code more times than I can remember. Risky is testing an editor, insane is testing disk defraggers and caches. I've done all of that, mostly for a few thousand dollars worth of free software. Sometimes when your contribution is way beyond what's expected you get something really amazing, the FlashScan was like that, more often you just get free software. The best reward for me is when I end up with a product that works better for me because the authors listened to and thought about what I had to say.
But before you become a beta tester for anything, make sure the risk is acceptable. And remember, there's always risk. In this case at the easy end it might be you can't tune for a month and if you're desperate you get to pay overnight shipping both ways for me to put it back to the old firmware, or if it really goes to heck your car might not run for a week or need a new ECM. So that's the risk in beta testing EFILive, and with something like stand alone flashing the risk factor is considerably higher then with a lot of other things.
Now you get to think about the past and what problems you've heard about in previous betas, how they were handled and what you can put up with.
And you'll usually end up signing a non-disclosure so you can't officially talk about it except in the beta section or on the phone with another tester or the author.
So think about what it means before you make the choice.
Ira
what is the general agenda for this beta testing, just trying to get a heads up on what would be involved.
It's all good until it goes "Bang"
Well first you would need to submit an AutoCal beta tester's application, unless you have already and I missed it.
http://www.efilive.com/index.php?opt...orm&Itemid=135
Regards
Paul
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I know joe, I was merely pointing out that in the beta testing forum the way the post is worded it seems like testing is ONLY for AutoCal and that FlashScan users are SOL. I know I can participate now, Im just trying to help people after me so they arent confused like I was before Paul clarified it.
~Erik~
2013 Sonic RS Manual - 1.4L I4T E78, tuned, turbo mods, etc.
2008 TrailBlazer SS 3SS AWD Summit White - LS2 E67/T42, bolt ons, suspension, etc.
2002 Chevy TrailBlazer LT 4X4 Summit White - 4.2L I6 P10, lifted, wheels, etc.
Last edited by Chevy366; March 1st, 2009 at 07:23 PM.
2005 1500 HD , Custom OS3 SD tune .
2006 Trailblazer
Dinosaurs and Plants gave their lives so that we may drive , long live fossil fuel .
Sure, I realize that's how it reads, that's is exactly what I mean. You can still participate and test or just try out the software and firmware free using your FlashScan V2.
Just interested in your point of view, did you expect that EFILive would be giving away AutoCal units for testing? I had considered doing that, but with our past experience of beta testing, it is a sure way to sort out the folks who are: "I just wanna play with new toys free of charge" v's the folks who are: "I am serious about testing and am prepared to pay to show how serious I am".
By the way AutoCal's will not retail for $150 when they are released publicly. The $150 price tag is a considerable discount.
Also I should point out that the AutoCal units used for beta testing differ slightly from the final product in the following ways:
1. The beta units do not have circuit protection on the power, and/or USB lines, the production units do.
2. The beta units do not have a serial I/O built in*, the prodcutions units do have serial I/O built in. The serial I/O allows a serial data stream (like wide band O2) to be logged.
* Not being built in means the beta units will still support serial I/O but require an external interface circuit.
Those differences influenced our decision to sell the beta units at a considerable discount instead of retail.
Regards
Paul
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