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Thread: Cold AFR doesn't follow commanded AFR

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    Default Cold AFR doesn't follow commanded AFR

    I was wondering what causes the WBO2 AFR to not match the commanded AFR when you start the vehicle cold? I have 3 cars I've done now and all 3 are the same.

    I attached a log of the firebird, you can see that they are not even close. Any ideas where I could look?

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    I guess I should of attached the tune also.....
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    In SD this happens for me too,
    but once the MAF is enabled and tuned it is cured.
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    No way I'm putting a MAF on this car!!!


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    PowerGlide, 5000 stall converter. 8.70@154 MPH

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    Nice ride,
    look in the Crank/Start folder for other "options".
    How about hanging the MAF from the rear view mirror?
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    It looks like there's a real need for a true speed density OS, one that is scaled down without all the useless tables, kinda like the Holley commander software!!

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    MS3 Cam 237/242 .603/.609, Vic Jr. intake, Holley 1000CFM TB,
    PowerGlide, 5000 stall converter. 8.70@154 MPH

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post

    Nice ride,
    look in the Crank/Start folder for other "options".
    How about hanging the MAF from the rear view mirror?
    yeah, that is nice. what color blue is that? i'm diggin' it.

    I've had the same issues with cold start AFRs too with both SD and MAF. if I ever figure out what it is I'll let you know.

    OT, yay, bill cosby is back, no more vomitting dog.
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    That is a nice color blue, my old man had a '67 Firebird that was a similar color.

    I missed the COZ too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.prick View Post
    That is a nice color blue, my old man had a '67 Firebird that was a similar color.

    I missed the COZ too.
    yeah I was looking at simmilar stuff to paint my '68 firebird back when I had it.

    that dog picture was disturbing.
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    Desired Air Flow numbers appear to be on the low side and idle spark is 36 degrees.

    You have all of the spark tables with high spark values around idle and then have lowered optimal spark values compared to oem values around idle.

    Aside from that, your actual AFR compared to commanded ain't all that bad.

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