Auto VE questions

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Originally Posted by ItzNota

Wow, thanks for taking the time to do that...
Couple things I am going to have to modify in your reply though.
1) No more EGR...took it off
Basically converted my 00 to 02...software and hardware-wise. Only thing I need to double check is Transmission differences.
With what you replied I realized some stuff...Thanks much for the assistance. I am sure I will have more questions later on, but I definitely have a better idea now.

Mike

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Well, to get the full list of changes, load in a stock file in the background for comparison and run the compare report. I changed quite a bit. As for the EGR, that should be simple. Just hit the Disable button and kill the DTC Processing Enablers for it. :)

So all I really need to do then is take the RAFPN avg for each temp and add it to B4307?
So for the Screenshot below, I add 2.23 to the 111F section in B4307 for P/N.
Will that also help my cold start AFR? cuz it's way lean and I haven't been able to richen it up.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...LIVE/RAFPN.jpg

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Originally Posted by ViciousKnid

So all I really need to do then is take the RAFPN avg for each temp and add it to B4307?
So for the Screenshot below, I add 2.23 to the 111F section in B4307 for P/N.
Will that also help my cold start AFR? cuz it's way lean and I haven't been able to richen it up.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...LIVE/RAFPN.jpg

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(Sorry for the late response)

Correct - 2.23 is what you would add to your desired airflow table.

No, this shouldn't affect cold start AFRs. This is purely making sure the engine has enough airflow to maintain idle. For cold start AFRs, you can command a richer AFR in B3605 for ECT temps where you're lean. Ideally, once you tune the AFR @ operating temps appropriately, cold start AFRs shouldn't be that far off.

Are you sure you're not reading lean because of the AIR pump???

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Originally Posted by SSpdDmon

(Sorry for the late response)

Correct - 2.23 is what you would add to your desired airflow table.

No, this shouldn't affect cold start AFRs. This is purely making sure the engine has enough airflow to maintain idle. For cold start AFRs, you can command a richer AFR in B3605 for ECT temps where you're lean. Ideally, once you tune the AFR @ operating temps appropriately, cold start AFRs shouldn't be that far off.

Are you sure you're not reading lean because of the AIR pump???

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I figured it out. The cold start lean problem was actually because my VE way down low got screwed up some how. Fixed it and all it good. Working on an unrelated issues now.

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Originally Posted by SSpdDmon

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I like to work on one cell at a time (only takes 5 minutes). So for the 176*F cell for example, I go back to my log and filter out any ECT's less than 175*F or ECT's greater than 177*F. Then, I look at the AVERAGE log of the RAFIG pid for 176*F. I then make that correction to the 176*F cell in the desired idle airflow table. Do that for all of the temps in the table you were able to hit. Then, guess-timate for the cells you weren't able to hit. That's the best you'll be able to do for them.

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So you work on one cell at a time...

filter out data not for this cell, take average of remaining data, add it to this cell... I see. :)

Sorry for digging up an old thread but every direction I turn I am referred back to this thread.

I tried running the RAFIG and it did not work. So I looked into the PID and can't seem to find the PIDs the RAFIG is referring to.
Attachment 17773

In V8 those two pids are named IAC_LD_M and IAC_SD_M.

Did you select the engine controller as LS1B...?

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Originally Posted by joecar

In V8 those two pids are named IAC_LD_M and IAC_SD_M.

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OK I found those but the MORE INFO for RAFIG refers to IAC_LTD_DMA and IAC_STD_DMA. Don't I have to have IAC_LTD_DMA and IAC_STD_DMA for RAFIG to work?

I am trying to set this up for both a 03 2500 HD 6.0L and a 01 S10 ZR2 4.3L. Am i going to have to create two separate set of PID loads?

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Originally Posted by joecar

Did you select the engine controller as LS1B...?

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I did

Attachment 17775

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Originally Posted by Dirktdolman

OK I found those but the MORE INFO for RAFIG refers to IAC_LTD_DMA and IAC_STD_DMA. Don't I have to have IAC_LTD_DMA and IAC_STD_DMA for RAFIG to work?

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With the V7 scantool: yes.

With the V8 scantool they are renamed (the More Info text is not correct).

If you're attempting to tune idle/rafig, then you should be doing this with the V7 scantool.

So ignore the V8 and use the V7.5 instead? I looked at that but could not figure out how to program the V2 with the V7.5.

I have to tell you that I am getting really frustrated with this $900 toy. I have spent 15-18 hours of reading and gotten NO WERE. Most of the threads and manuals are 7 years old. The V7.5 Scan manual talks about function and features which I can find.

Disconnect everything. Stop all the new V8 stuff in the system tray. Open 7.5 scan & tune tools. The information may be 7 years old but it is still very relevant to your LS1 vehicles you are attempting to tune.

I don't have 8 installed anymore. I only have EFILive Scan Tool V7.5 and EFILive Tune Tool V7.5 installed. The Manual for EFILive Scan Tool V7.5 talks about functions which my version does not have. Using V7.5 and I can not program selected PIDs into Flashscan.

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Originally Posted by Dirktdolman

So ignore the V8 and use the V7.5 instead? I looked at that but could not figure out how to program the V2 with the V7.5.

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Originally Posted by Dirktdolman

I don't have 8 installed anymore. I only have EFILive Scan Tool V7.5 and EFILive Tune Tool V7.5 installed. The Manual for EFILive Scan Tool V7.5 talks about functions which my version does not have. Using V7.5 and I can not program selected PIDs into Flashscan.

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You use V8 to program V2 with logging pidlists.

You use V2 to record logs; you then transfer the logs to your PC, and you use V7 to analyze the logs and edit the tune file.

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Originally Posted by Dirktdolman

I don't have 8 installed anymore. I only have EFILive Scan Tool V7.5 and EFILive Tune Tool V7.5 installed. The Manual for EFILive Scan Tool V7.5 talks about functions which my version does not have. Using V7.5 and I can not program selected PIDs into Flashscan.

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You want V8 installed because this is how you update the firmware in your V2, and how you program V2 for logging pidlists.

Have you read these:

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Originally Posted by joecar

BBL-PIDs-V2
What-is-BBL
New-V2-help-find-exlporer
V2-BBL-saving-log-data

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You have to read these:
V7 scantool user manual pdf <-- V7 scantool has maps which you need for tuning VE/MAF and other tables.
V7 tunetool user manual pdf <-- V7 tunetool is how you edit a calibraiton file.

Also, instead of trying to do AutoVE, try doing Calc.VET, see post #1 of this thread:
https://forum.efilive.com/showthread...in-single-log)
( follow all the links from post #1 of that thread )

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Originally Posted by Dirktdolman

I have to tell you that I am getting really frustrated with this $900 toy. I have spent 15-18 hours of reading and gotten NO WERE. Most of the threads and manuals are 7 years old. The V7.5 Scan manual talks about function and features which I can find.

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Which features can't you find...?

If you play with the V7 scantool you will find out a lot of its functionality.

More info:

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Originally Posted by joecar

V7 software:
this is the traditional scantool and tunetool that you use for scanning/logging/reading/flashing with laptop in vehicle;
scantool is also used for viewing log files; tunetool is also used for editing tune files.

V8 software:
this is the Black Box mode configuration tools, S&T and EE, and includes V2 firmware/bootblock.
S&T is used to configure V2 for BBL/BBR/BBF; EE is used to copy logs and tunes between V2 and laptop;
V8 software will eventually provide the functionality of the V7 scantool/tunetool.

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Even though V8 scantool now exists, it does not yet provide all the features of the V7 scantool (e.g. maps and filters), so use V7 scantool for tuning for now.

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